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    r/Stocks Daily Discussion Wednesday - Apr 29, 2020

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 01:07 AM PDT

    These daily discussions run from Monday to Friday including during our themed posts.

    Some helpful links:

    If you have a basic question, for example "what is EPS," then google "investopedia EPS" and click the investopedia article on it; do this for everything until you have a more in depth question or just want to share what you learned.

    Please discuss your portfolios in the Rate My Portfolio sticky..

    See our past daily discussions here. Also links for: Technicals Tuesday, Options Trading Thursday, and Fundamentals Friday.

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    Analysts and stock market “professionals” are complete morons

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 10:41 AM PDT

    The more money I put into the stock market, the more research I do, the more I realize that all these analysts are complete idiots who put out clickbait bullshit articles with terrible guidance and mislead people. Motley Fool and Seeking Alpha are two of the largest and worst publications in my opinion. Complete dumpster fires of nothing but complete bullshit. Saw an article few days back on one of them that read something to the tune of "Why you should sell RCL and DAL". Two days later "RCL, DAL amongst other stocks that you need in your portfolio". I'll take the fellers over at r/wallstreetbets more seriously than any of these imbeciles on any day of the week.

    I no longer follow advise or guidance of anyone at all. Don't care how rich or knowledgeable you might be because of stock market. I do my own research, I take my own risks so then I can say "I made this money on my own or wow I'm an idiot I really fucked myself"

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    Microsoft’s stock rises after company reports 15% sales jump

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 01:09 PM PDT

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/microsoft-msft-earnings-q3-2020.html

    Earnings: $1.40 per share, adjusted

    Revenue: $35.02 billion

    Growth from the Azure cloud was 59%.

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    NBCUniversal CEO says its future releases will be released both in theaters and digitally, AMC vows to ban Universal movies from its theaters after this announcement, we are watching the evolution of the entertainment industry

    Posted: 28 Apr 2020 06:52 PM PDT

    Amc today is up 30% on hopes for their chains reopening their doors soon, however NBCUniversal CEO just announced this evening its future movies will be released simultaneously in theaters and digitally on demand, in response AMC has vowed to ban Universal movies from its theaters.

    We are watching the evolution of the entertainment industry, what effect do you think this will have on the market? Universal Pictures earned more from Trolls world tour than the original trolls movie by releasing directly to the consumer than via movie theaters so i really cant see how theater chains can survive if other studios follow suit. I believe they are destined to become a niche industry.

    'Trolls World Tour' Breaks Digital Records and Charts a New Path for Hollywood

    AMC vows to bar Universal movies from its theaters after video-on-demand comments

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    Boeing posts quarterly loss of $641 million, burns through $4.3 billion in cash

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 05:22 AM PDT

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/boeing-ba-earnings-q1-2020.html

    EPS: A loss of $1.70

    Revenue: $16.91 billion

    Boeing posted a first-quarter loss of $641 million and said it burned through $4.3 billion in cash during the first quarter as the company faces both coronavirus and the more than yearlong grounding of its best-selling plane, the 737 Max.

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    If billionaire investors are bearish short-term and sitting in cash, why are you buying?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 12:04 PM PDT

    Carl Icahn:

    Short-term, I think you may have some big downtrends, so that is where I am with that...When people start going back out, I don't think it's going to be as good as some think. I think you may see recurrence of that virus... Today the risk is too high for the reward in many companies.

    Mark Cuban:

    I think this is kind of buy the rumor and potentially we sell the news when reality sets in. I think people are naturally optimistic right now in terms of the market. I just don't think they are really factoring in what we are going to see on the other side.

    Steve Cohen, Point 72 Asset Management

    Markets don't come back in a straight line; after an earthquake there are tremors. We are seeing plenty of opportunities to generate returns, but I don't want us taking undue risks.

    Charlie Munger, Berkshire Hathaway

    That doesn't mean we couldn't do something pretty aggressive or seize some opportunity. But basically we will be fairly conservative...Nobody in America's ever seen anything else like this. This thing is different. Everybody talks as if they know what's going to happen, and nobody knows what's going to happen...We're like the captain of a ship when the worst typhoon that's ever happened comes. We just want to get through the typhoon, and we'd rather come out of it with a whole lot of liquidity.

    UBS Global Wealth Management Poll:

    The majority of the world's wealthiest investors are waiting for stocks to drop further before buying again, on concerns about the pandemic's impact on the global economy, according to a poll by UBS Global Wealth Management.

    Among the surveyed investors and business owners with at least US$1 million in investable assets or in annual revenue, 61 per cent want to see equities fall another five per cent to 20 per cent before buying, while 23 per cent say it's already a good time to do so. Some 16 per cent say that now is not the time to load up on stocks as it's a bear market.

    High net-worth individuals are cautious on risk assets as 60 per cent say a global recession is highly likely to occur in the next 12 months, the April poll by UBS showed.

    Bank of America Survey:

    The Bank of America Global Fund Manager survey for April reflects the large level of caution seen in the markets since efforts to stop the coronavirus have shut down large portions of the world's economic activity and abruptly halted the longest bull market in U.S. history.

    Among the most notable developments was the move to cash.

    Managers reported average cash balances of 5.9%, up from 5.1% in the March survey just as the damage from the virus was beginning. That's the highest cash balance since the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.

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    Please don't panic buy from FOMO

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 12:54 PM PDT

    Don't panic buy

    Don't use your emergency savings in hopes to double up

    Consider DCA if you are set on buying

    For shares in the market, it would make more sense to keep it (hit a year for 10% tax on gains vs 20+% short term gains)

    Time in the market beats timing the market

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    Make your own decisions people

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 09:02 AM PDT

    It's cool to see that so many people want to learn about the stock market but....

    If you're not going to make your own decisions and do your own research you should not be managing an investment portfolio. Roboinvestors & professional investment firms exist for this very reason.

    Also don't complain when you get bad advice on a meme forum such as reddit.

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    Somebody slap me and tell me to stop trying to time the market.

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 02:25 PM PDT

    Been spooked out of the market and bought & sold twice during this market ascent. Last one today as I was afraid for MSFT and FB earnings. Now they're up big after hours. Haven't lost money but I definitely could have made much more if I had just done nothing!

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    Oil storage

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 06:44 PM PDT

    So I believe oil storage is the biggest play in the market right now. I currently own NAT shares and im so confident about it that 85% of my portfolio is dedicated to it. (I have never been so heavily invested in a single company like this before). Anyways.. tankers aren't the only solution to storage. Energy transfer is asking permission to store approx. 2 million barrels in their pipelines, which is quite an insignificant amount compared to tankers storage capacity.

    I am wondering if other people have ideas about what the next move for oil storage will be. If you didn't know, the US government is wanting to stash billions of more barrels but they have no where to put it. Who might be the next beneficiary of this storage crisis?

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    The market is going to burst in a couple of weeks ahead, this is my theory.

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 04:32 PM PDT

    Introduction

    I've been investing in the stock market for about 4 years now and i'd consider myself a rookie but i been reading books, news articles, listened to interviews and basically been trying to form myself an opinion on how this entire business works. The world keeps moving therefore the future changes which makes it impossible to crack the code. It changes like enigma but it's a lot more complicated. I'm a long term investor, sold a majority of my stocks in the beginning of 2020 expecting either a recession or correction, got lucky with covid-19. Lately I've been taking advantage of Q1 reports and my entire net worth is $60 315 dollars.

    Subject

    It's very basic how companies succeed, it's demand and supply, if the demand increases the price of the product will also increase, A large supply will decrease the price of the product while a small supply will increase it. For an example, a shortage supply of toilet paper increases the price, same thing with safety masks and the short supply is caused by a high demand but can also be caused by low production, however not in this case.

    All companies in the entire world relies on people spending their money in some form or another, consumption makes the economy go around and what will happen if the consumption decreases? The demand will decrease, the production of the products will decrease or there will be a high supply which will decrease the value of the products. The housing market has already shown a decrease in value due to low demand, Car sales has also lowered their prices due to low demand.

    The demand is decreasing due to unemployment and fear of losing their jobs which are leading to less consumption, there are probably a thousand different reasons due to a decrease in spending but these i believe are the main factors.

    In February the unemployment rate in just the US was 3,5%, has increased to 4,4% where it is today and will likely reach double digits in April according to experts, (how dafuq do you become an expert..)

    This is just the beginning of a major chaos, the market is booming because of term purchase agreement operations made by fed and the reasons why many Q1 reports are positive is because it includes the January month and especially real estate companies haven't had an impact from covid-19 yet because they have contracts with their tenants therefore they still received the expected income. I myself bought a company the day before Q1 release with this in mind and made myself a juice return of 8%

    The unemployment is increasing world wide and my theory is that first people will sell unnecessary items, downgrade their car and at last they will downgrade their residence. All these actions will have a major effect and i strongly believe here is no chance in hell we've reached the bottom of this situation. Q2 reports will also be way worse than Q1 reports so when the day comes be careful cause the reports will only include bad months and during those months the unemployment has also increased rapidly.

    What i want from this post is to create a discussion, i'd love to hear your opinion, i want to learn, increase my confidence or either change my mind, i'm open for discussing and i'm not going to stand my ground, all opinions are respected and i'll try to answer as much as possible, thanks!

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    Airbus stock grows by almost 10% in one day despite it burning $8.7 Billion through the first quarter

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 07:57 AM PDT

    Absolutely nothing makes sense.

    Seems like the new strategy of buying stocks is to buy company stocks that are at risk of going bankrupt

    Airliners are pretty much still grounded, generating no revenue - so they're very likely not be ordering any new aircraft anytime soon.

    ???????

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    NAT, Why if you bought this at above 8 like me you're going to probably lose money.

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 03:11 PM PDT

    As a disclaimer, yesterday I bought NAT at 8.42 with 3,614 shares.

    Okay, so here's the issues with alot of people in the NAT stock. I see how popular it is on this sub and how there is so much poor information on this stock. I see people making the point how it's been bleeding money for years, or a vague "it's going up to ten dollars."

    So here is what all new investors need to learn, you have to research your own stocks. Is what I did stupid? No. I swing trade in stocks I see going up in the long run. If you got into this because of a vague youtube video you're going to lose money eventually and have no idea what you're doing.

    This is my in depth of why I'm holding onto this stock even at a 8k loss right now. It will probably go down to 5$ and people will panic sell who are new to trading.

    When you hear short term that means less than a year, not one or two weeks. Long term means longer than a year. So ik short term and plan to hold to or past May.

    1. I'm 22, I made a risky investment with 30% of my portfolio because I'm okay with losing money.

    2. We are weeks away from the assumed peak of problem in the oil contago. Disclaimer: we are probably not, never trust analysts.

    3. Once this oil contago is over oil and this virus is history oil will skyrocket because of all the shut down oil producers, once you shut them down you cant get them back up and running to peak proficiency. I'm not going to hold that long but the speculation will drive the price up. Or if the usa loses its ability to sell oil this stock will drop by a large margin.

    4. NAT was losing quarterly every year. Normally that means something very bad for a company. However that made NAT have the highest chance of growth because of this windfall of money before going into a market of oil demands at highs.

    5. These first earning reports will mean nothing, but q2 is going to be very important. If they can quickly pay off debts to be competitive with thier dividends to other tankers.

    6. This stock now has a barrier around 7$ of people wanting to cut thier losses and get out because of a major spike before a major loss. If it can get back to 7.50 and above it can easily go up to 9 easily. But 7 will be a point of resistance.

    7. Not only is this a very volatile stock, we are also in a very volatile market. Keep that in mind. It's a double double edged sword but it can also payoff because if you bought an oil tanker you probably understand the risk, or you had no idea what you're doing. Does this stock have the potential to hit 20$ again, no way, but it can hit 15 because the massive amount of volume this stock has been getting.

    When you hear short term that means less than a year, not one or two weeks. Long term means longer than a year.

    I didnt intend to hold this stock. It was a swing trade that didnt hit its limit. Was it smart to set a limit above 9, probably not. But why I got in at 8.42 was I needed confirmation of another massive leg up.

    With everything I just said, it's still entirely in the realm of possibility for this stock to reach 3$ again in a month. Dont ride the hype train make decisions based on metrics.

    Thank you if you read this far, and let us pray for a NAT stock of 20$.

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    TSLA Earnings Beat

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 01:37 PM PDT

    TSLA up to ~860 on earnings beat, +8% AH trading.

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    Stock watch list April 29, 2020

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 05:46 AM PDT

    Good morning, here's my watch list

    ​

    Gap Ups: AAL, BA, CCL, DIN, EAT , GILD, GOOG, IMMU, JNPR, LSCC, LOV, NCLH, RCL, SIG, SPOT, TCOM, VLO, WW

    Gap downs: AKAM, AMD, APRN, HAS, NFLX, ZM

    ​

    SPY gapping slighty after declining all day yesterday but still has room to the 200 day moving average which can act as resistance. There are many stocks going to be moving right now due to earnings catalyst in the market but the biggest movers will usually be earnings plays themselves and thats what I will be focusing on. Good Luck Trading.

    ​

    I am not holding any positions in any of the stocks listed. This list is used to watch for opportunities for entries dureing the trading session

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    QCOM, MSFT and FB all SURGING AH after good earnings

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 01:12 PM PDT

    On top of today's already large gains, and with actually reasonable forward looking guidance (even from FB, which rarely provides future looking info). Read it and weep, bears....yet another talking point blowing up in your faces. How sad.

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    $UAVS - Penny stock drone company partnering with Amazon

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 12:21 PM PDT

    $UAVS is a penny stock now at $2.50. The owners daughters YouTube just got leaked and they are gonna partner with Amazon. Most likely helping them created better software for drones to deliver boxes. This will 2x the stock in a matter of seconds. Tomorrow they will have a PR and they haven't said who it is but they said it's a big E-commerce business.If it's amazon it will go to $5-$10 do your on due diligence I'm just tryna help some peeps

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    I love after-hours

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 02:23 PM PDT

    Anyone else making some serious gains since markets have closed? I am going through the roof, let's hope it sticks.

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    Why won’t Tesla stop?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 03:31 PM PDT

    I don't understand what the hell is going on right now! Tesla prices make no sense to me. How did they make a profit this quarter?

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    Oil Tanker stocks!! Buy more, Hold or Sell now??

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 01:23 PM PDT

    Wanted your thoughts on Oil tanker stocks considering supply will keep trumping the demand for the upcoming months

    Anybody holding or buying shipping or oil tanker stocks? Tankers stocks are going down again today due to the surge in crude oil price. Would you folks buy more or hold or sell?

    Over the past 5 days I have been buying Oil tanker and Shipping stocks speculating that oil will go down again, maybe not go to negative like a few weeks ago but supply will definitely keep being higher than demand is my logic behind this short to midterm move. I rounded to the nearest $5 for the trade totals.

    Wanted to get the community's thoughts on these and see if there are others buying into these. Thanks.

    Tanker stocks: $2610

    NAT: $570 (80 units) DHT: $645 (80 units) TNP: $315 (80 units) CPLP: $295 (30 units) DSSI: $275 (20 units) FRO: $290 (30 units) GLOG: $220 (50 units)

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    On 5G

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 09:05 AM PDT

    Since there are a lot of wild ideas about what 5G is, whether it spread corona, and whether it is a good sector to invest, I want to chime in and give some advice. I am an expert on 5G tech, have been working with 4G/5G research for a long time, but I must admit that I know sh**t about the business aspect.

    The business aspect is a different beast. For example, 3G was available for many years, where lots of mobile operators have burnt billions and billions of dollars and crying about it, before the iphone came to market and completely change the game. So just having a nice technology is not enough, there is also a need to have a corresponding use case (a killer app, device, new industry, etc) for the technology to get traction.

    That being said, 5G is designed with this three main use cases in mind:

    (you can refer to this article, https://www.ericsson.com/4ae09e/assets/local/reports-papers/ericsson-technology-review/docs/2017/etr_evolving_lte_to_fit_the_5g_future.pdf, I am one of the authors... if you are not tech savvy and do not have time, just look at figure 2 therein)

    DISCLAIMER: I am not representing my company when I write this, so just my understanding/views

    1) enhanced mobile broadband:

    This is a use case where human to human communication is the main thing. Basically, making the data rate of smartphones faster, making sure there are not many coverage holes (e.g less dropped connections even while in fast moving vehicles, indoor, under bridges/tunnels, etc..), making sure dense number of people can be supported in a given area, etc..

    so basically, Gbps, reliable, connection even in hotspots...

    2) ultra reliable and low latency communication

    This is for use cases such as remote control/operation, factory automation (what some call industry 2.0) (you can read more about this at https://www.ericsson.com/en/internet-of-things/industry4-0), where a very fast latency is required. We are talking about a latency of 1-10ms, or even less than 1ms if we have what is called edge computing (e.g. some server on the internet or some cloud is not required for the service and the app server is located almost at the same location as the nodes that are providing connectivity like the base station antennas) . With 4G, we are talking about tens of milliseconds of latency at best.

    This is targeting both non-human (machine to machine) and human centered communication (e.g. gaming) or a mix of both (humans controlling machines remotely, imagine a surgery using a robot arm that the is controlled remotely by a surgeon)

    3) massive machine type communication:

    This is purely for non human communication, not necessarily requiring very high data rates, but having some severe restrictions like energy efficiency (e.g. sensors that can work for years without changing battery), coverage (e.g. sensors that are deep down in basements that record electricity/water usage).

    There are of course use cases that are a mixture of the above three. For example, an intelligent transportation system will require tons of sensors all over the road that the cars can communicate with to get info, as well as very low latency for the communication between cars to avoid accidents, platooning (e.g a fleet of trucks drifting each other to save fuel, etc). Another example will be a remote operation where the operator is getting very high definition video feedback or the activity he is observing (which requires very high data rate) and be able to manipulate the activity immediately (e.g touch a button and action taken remotely within milliseconds).

    So lots of use cases, lots of possibilities, but as I have mentioned earlier, it all depends on when the tech gets adopted. Specially, use cases 2 & 3 are very complicated because several aspects like government policies and ethics play a part (e.g. autonomous transportation system), so not only a killer app/device will be enough to drive your 5G investment "to the moon".

    I have no doubt all the use cases will become relevant at some point in the future, but whether that is going to be 3 years or 30 years, I don't know. And anyone who tells you otherwise with certainty is probably lying. But if I have to bet on anything, I will bet on use cases 2 and 3, and thus invest on companies that are mainly targeting these use cases rather than only the first use case, because if those two use cases fly, then there is no part of our life that will not be affected by it. The problem is timing of course, if the adoption takes too long, then the companies that are the major players may not be relevant at that time.

    What I wrote above maybe not so helpful with regard to your immediate investment plans, but at least I hope I have clarified that 5G is not just about downloading a HD movie in seconds on your mobile phone :-)

    Some other links for your further reading:

    What is 5G?

    https://www.ericsson.com/en/5g/what-is-5g

    https://www.qualcomm.com/invention/5g/what-is-5g

    Industry 4.0

    https://www.ericsson.com/en/internet-of-things/industry4-0

    https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/how-5g-will-transform-industrial-iot.pdf

    https://www.ericsson.com/en/networks/cases/accelerate-factory-automation-with-5g-urllc

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    Wall Street economists expect USA GDP growth to be -4%. S&P 500 is slightly up.

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 05:22 AM PDT

    Do you think the market has already factored in the decline and is now bullish only?

    I'm listening to Bloomberg Radio in VA right now and this is the first thing I heard. I don't get it. What happened? Most of the economy is closed and the number of sirens I hear everyday is just going up. Oil and tourism was just one of the earlier effects. Could affect agriculture, energy, mining and not sure what else.

    Did we miss something?

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    Do not panic sell NAT

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 09:53 AM PDT

    Keep a hold of it, wait for earnings quarter. Stock will at least be 10.

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    Stocks that pay dividends?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 12:50 PM PDT

    Hi guys, I'm new to the stock game. I have a HL account. I've been looking at stocks that pay dividends. How would I get dividends if and when I bought stocks that do? Many thanks in advance!

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    Its so nice when you sell your entire position and the next day its up 15%. (NCHL,CCL)

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 12:11 PM PDT

    What the fuck is happening with cruise stock? Next time I sell something I'll tell y'all.

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    Acb cannabis company

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 12:48 PM PDT

    Do you guys remember this stock that was trending last year. I spent 11$ per stock last year and now it's worth 70cents. Did I take a super fat L

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