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    Thank you Thursday! - November 18, 2021

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 02:00 AM PST

    Your opportunity to thank the /r/Entrepreneur community by offering free stuff, contests, discounts, electronic courses, ebooks and the best deals you know of.

    Please consolidate such offers here!

    Since this thread can fill up quickly, consider sorting the comments by "new" (instead of "best" or "top") to see the newest posts.

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    $4K/mo Freelance Copywriting FAQs (6 min read)

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 01:06 PM PST

    Disclaimer: I wrote this in an hour and it's an outline for a blog post on my website. Excuse any errors and whatnot.

    Some of you may remember me from the other post lol. Got bombarded with questions, thought it'd be best to give you guys one accessible hub for all the FAQs.

    Couple of things before we get started:

    - I am currently not up for hire. I'd love to help you, but my hands are full.

    - Any other questions I will answer here, in public, for others.

    - These are my opinions from what I learned and did to scale on Fiverr after a bit over a year. I cannot guarantee this will work for you. It did for me though. So all advice should be taken as my "expert" opinion.

    - I was a copywriter before I grew on Fiverr. But, this guide should work for you because as far as Fiverr was concerned, I was just a new profile. My experience didn't give me any direct advantage in the algorithm, but maybe the fact that I mentioned my years in the game in my bio enticed some buyers.

    Covering:

    • What is copywriting? (Ethical click-baiting)
    • Do you have to be a native English Speaker? (Yes...but anyone can get to native level)
    • Finding clients (step-by-step)
    • Qualifications (formal education: no. / good to have: yes / do I have: no)
    • Niche or no niche? (both.)
    • Pricing ($ / word)

    What is "copywriting"?

    If I were to give you two words: ethical click-baiting.

    Or, articulating words to sell, entertain, present. It's more than marketing, it's neurolinguistics, psychology—human behavior, HOW we react to certain words—and optimizing sentences to that.

    Ramble:

    Go on a website, look at all their web text. If it grabs your attention, impresses you, or just makes you raise an eyebrow, that's the work of a great copywriter(s). My go-to: Apple.com

    I love their sneaky little puns, witty phrasing, it's all a part of the brand and selling.

    The website/ad text you see is called "copy" (Idk why just don't ask lol) The action is "writing."

    Voilà, copywriting.

    *There are specializations in copywriting. Look them up: Direct response, SEO, technical, you'll see others when you google.

    Do you have to be a native English speaker to be a copywriter?

    Let's just say that if I was a business owner that needed one, I would ALWAYS choose a native speaker from either Canada, the US, Aus, or the UK. Maybe some European countries if the copywriter can speak English natively. Period.

    I've worked with non-natives and natives, and let me tell you, natives just understand the culture better. The lingo. The slang. Down to the fucking core.

    You can't just have a "professional proficiency" in English. Maybe you can get by, but it's going to be a bumpy road if you come across clients who have a higher standard.

    But if you know good enough English, you're capable of knowing it better. But if you're looking for a side hustle that doesn't require that much English education and preparation, this isn't for you, non-native speakers.

    How many hours a week do you put into copywriting?

    For me, 20-25. I'm moving to full-time tho, I really like doing it.

    Fully dependent on your workload, client expectations, and pricing. You can put as little as 10-15 hours once you find 1-2 long-term clients who have a set of needs. On Fiverr, you control your deadlines so you can span a project over, say, 10 days.

    Ramble:

    On Fiverr, you need to build credibility. That shit takes time. You gotta offer low prices and harvest reviews. But it's worth it because eventually, you have the experience and portfolio to hike your prices, then you can work less for the same amount or more.

    Just look at me. I held down the fort for a year.

    HOW DO YOU FIND CLIENTSSSSS?

    Before I literally show you how I did it, don't do this until you know you can offer a good service. Get good first, please.

    I was fortunate to be a part of a professional network in one of Canada's top startup incubators. I literally have a slack with successful entrepreneurs and companies/startups that hire people in that chat. Because you're in the network, trust is there. That's partly why I scaled so fast and took most my business off-Fiverr.

    That said, I exploded on Fiverr because I did this:

    My no-bullshit step-by-step:

    1. Create a Fiverr profile. Then create a copywriting AND blog post writing* gig. Not Upwork. Fiverr. Get on Upwork later.
      1. Look at top sellers on Fiverr in copywriting and blog posts and mimic their gigs, with lower prices. Don't copy. You could get reported. Look up best practices for profile creation.
    2. Let them sit for a week or two in the algorithm.
    3. Meanwhile, if you haven't built a small portfolio, just something to point ppl to, write on Medium, guest post for other websites (**preferably with your name attached), find local businesses with shitty websites, ask them if you could change it for free/price.
      1. And yo, write good content: original and displaying your writing personality. Ppl may not even ask to see it, or they might. No one asks me on Fiverr anymore, my reviews do the trick. But offline, they do sometimes.
    4. No orders yet? Don't be shocked. I had to wait a month before I got my first. Now, ask your friends to place some orders on both gigs. Like 5 for each. Different people, different comments. You will lose some money, Fiverr takes a 20% cut—assuming you pay your friends back. It was a gamble for me. I wasn't sure if it'd work. But, after I did it, I saw more orders come in and review with them—it was a snowball from there. That's because Fiverr cycles your gig through the algorithm for more visibility—they notice you if you're doing well.
    5. Behave like Amazon when it comes to Customer Service. Treat them like a fucking King. For example, Fiverr has a 3-day order approval window for buyers. I tell my long-term, high-paying clients, take as long as you fucking need, and get unlimited revisions. You're not happy? That's my fault.
    6. Google growth tips for Fiverr. Follow each one.

    Wait, wait. Isn't step 4 unethical?

    I mean, I guess. Here's why I didn't have a problem with it:

    • I've been writing since I was 16. I got the skills to back it up. I'm not misleading ppl with the reviews.
    • I actually produced content for my friends that needed it.
    • I put in 10 "biased" ones but earned more than 100 genuine ones from random clients.

    *Why did I say to create a blog post-gig? You want to build your credibility as an overall writer. Blog post gigs are insanely high in demand and easier to trust compared to copywriting services when you're beginning.

    What qualifications do I need (& resources)?

    On Fiverr, reviews are more important than your money. Treat as such. You don't need formal education for copywriting. Ppl will literally laugh. Your portfolio is everything. It only comes second to reviews, for Fiverr, anyway.

    But if you're formally educated in the field (communications/marketing/English/copywriting) flex it in your Fiverr bio. It builds confidence in the buyer.

    Top resources:

    - Breakthrough Advertising —that's your copywriting bible, it's universally agreed. It's $800, still do not know why, but just google the free PDF online. I think my post keeps getting removed because I keep linking it.

    - Hey whipple, squeeze this - amazon

    - And type in Google top copywriters and follow their work. I like Dave Hareland.

    - YouTube, udemy, skillshare, Fiverr has courses too

    - Other names: Eugene Schwartz, Jacob McMillen

    Should I write for a niche?

    I started generic. I'm really good at research, so I was able to. You can create many gigs on Fiverr. Make one generic, and make others related to niches. That way, you have maximum exposure and in some categories, less competition.

    HOW DO I PRICE MY SHIT?

    By far, one of the most confusing things for me. But I found for freelancing on Fiverr, a $ per word basis helped deal with all the different kinds of projects. Some freelancers do hourly too—you can do this once you know how long certain kinds of projects take you and plan how much you want to get paid per project.

    You can increase prices with your seller levels on Fiverr, which is based on a set of criteria (look up Fiverr seller levels). When I was in your position I wanted cold hard numbers, so that's what I'll list here.

    So for blog posts, here:

    Beg: $0.03 - 0.04 USD / word (warning: this is borderline slavery but suck it up until you are level 1 seller, then move to $0.05)

    Mid: $0.06 - 0.10 USD / word (level 2 sellers) Slowly increase overtime. Maybe every 15 orders.

    Experienced: $0.12+ / word (top-rated sellers)

    Ex. 1500 word blog post. My rate: 0.12 x 1500 words = 180 USD (180 is what you would put in your gig price, not the rate, as Fiverr doesn't let you).

    Takes 4 hours max to write: $45/hr

    For copywriting, here:

    Beg: $0.10 - 0.15 / word

    Mid: 0.15 - 0.25 / word (I think most western copywriters are in this range on Fiverr)

    Exp: $0.25 - $1.00+ / word

    There's just SO MUCH competition, though.

    Fiverr has 3.42 million active buyers, as of 2020**.**

    Right now, one of my less popular copywriting gig has 12k impressions (# of ppl who just saw it while scrolling through the endless pit of gigs). From there, 238 clicked on it. That's 2%.

    From that, 13 ordered so far this month. And those orders made me $1200 USD. (I'm mostly off Fiverr now, the rest of my clients pay me offline)

    Yes, Fiverr is huge. But you're looking at it wrong. When I saw the thousands of Pakistani freelancers with hundreds of reviews offering the same shit I did for 1/16 of the price, I said what the fuck. But I realized, there are different kinds of clients for different kinds of sellers.

    Those guys were getting the clients who wanted a bang for their buck. I was attracting the ones who were willing to pay higher for better quality. I wouldn't even say I'm an EXPERT. I'm intermediate moving to senior if anything. Choose your market, and wait, they'll come. Sometimes later than sooner, but they'll come.

    If you're wondering how you might be found in the haystack, Fiverr's filters narrow down results by like a lot. On top of that, Fiverr has some programs to help your conversions: Rising Talent, Fiverr's Choice, and Repeat something I forgot. Deliver quality, and Fiverr will love you and HELP you make them more money.

    No matter which kind of seller you are, just start. If it doesn't work then it doesn't. But I thought the same thing, said fuck it, did it, and here I am. Now, it's just a client generator for some extra income.

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    Anything else, my friends, ask here or Google lol. It's what I did.

    Cheers,

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    It's the day. MVP is out.

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 10:14 AM PST

    Yeah so that's basically it. Been working on this MVP part-time since Feb 2021. Spent quite some money actually which I'm not really proud of but still, today I'll be able to finally go to the app stores and see my work.

    I have no idea how it'll be received but after listening to so many people say they didn't even get to put it out in the market I'm happy mine is finally out.

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    Hate being an employee

    Posted: 17 Nov 2021 08:12 PM PST

    Had another rough day at work. I don't like getting shit from people I work under. Plus, I'm done making some guy I barely know....rich. So I finally just made an LLC. I'm going to start a successful cleaning business and work for myself. As soon as business starts taking off, I'm quitting my job. I HATE being an employee...I'm f-ing DONE.

    Edit: I did not once say that being an entrepreneur is going to be worry free or won't have troubles. I will embrace them. They will be MY troubles. But it will be MY business. I'll have to use my brain, not just do what someone tells me to do and get a paycheck. Does anyone see where I'm going with this?? Also, TYSM for those of you who have encouraging words. It meams a lot!!

    Edit #2 : I did NOT expect this to blow up at all. I appreciate everyone's comments, it truly means a lot. I want to go for the moon amd do this. I will not die without knowing I did what so many people are afraid to do! But I'm not afraid of money. Again, thank you!!

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    I need a tool to create tasks with sub-tasks, track time, and setup recurring tasks. Clickup seems closest available solution. Wanted to know if there's anything better?

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 07:15 AM PST

    I'm a freelancer and I have recurring tasks mostly. As mentioned in subject the goal is:

    1. Need to create tasks with subtasks
    2. Track time for each task & sub-task
    3. Setup recurring tasks

    Currently I'm using notion with a time keeper addon. But sub-tasks and recurring tasks are a big headache and mobile support is not great.

    After evaluating asana, coda, todoist etc. I zeroed on clickup. It ticks all requirements, but:

    1. UI and esp. mobile app are confusing
    2. Price doesn't seems justified for my use case (free version is way limited).

    Any suggestions in this regard guys? Thanks a lot.

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    Please help me decide between a .ca or a .org domain name.

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 12:47 PM PST

    Sure I could buy both and probably will, but I need to settle on one.

    The business is say, a method of losing weight. The website will give out lots of free info but maybe hope to see products and services in the future.

    It is in Canada, services will be in Canada and online.

    Customers could be from anywhere, the US or father for sure.

    Thanks everyone.

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    You know you have a bad startup when…

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 12:36 PM PST

    When you get turned down by THREE consulting firms that you want to PAY to give you advice. Keep on trucking, guys!

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    The 10 Most Common Negotiation Myths that People Believe

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 06:25 AM PST

    1. People are Born Great Negotiators

    Well, if this were true, then there'd be no need for negotiation books, right? But there are thousands of them and each year, these books are revised by someone else or an entirely new series is introduced. This can only lead to one thing; people are not born as great negotiators. Human beings are just far too complex; we might be easy to read on one aspect of our lives, it won't be the same with another. The ability to negotiate without problems takes months, years even. And even if you did take the most advanced negotiation classes on earth, there is still a chance that you will not get what you want. While skills are important, there is also the emotional factor. You certainly need guts and intelligence to be able to negotiate like a pro. And those are things that most humans are not built with automatically.

    2. Nice Negotiators Finish Last

    Another popular myth among negotiators is the fact that the nice negotiators are the ones who get left behind. To become the best negotiator, you have to be aggressive and mean. People often picture negotiators as people who are always hounding on other people to get what they want. Well, this myth is untrue. There are many ways to negotiate and close a good or bad deal is all based on the circumstances for both parties. The accommodation negotiation style is one such style where the negotiator is particularly sensitive towards the other party. In short, it's the Mr.Nice Guy type of negotiation. And if in case two parties really can't come to a common understanding, in the end, concessions can be made. Again, acting the opposite to the hardball approach is not at all a bad tactic to apply in your negotiations.

    3. Someone Always Loses in Negotiation

    Again, this is false. During negotiations, when two parties really can't come to a common ground, there are always other ways for both parties to get something in the middle. This is usually in the form of concessions. If this myth were true, then some of the most controversial negotiations in history may have ended differently. Like the Cuban Missile Crisis. While your goal during a negotiation is to find a way to get the deal that you want, there are considerations to check. If the other party happens to be a company that you'd want to establish relations with in the future, then you want to give them a concession or two first so that they'll feel grateful enough to give you a pass in the future.

    4. Negotiators Rely Solely on Intuition

    As we often tell each other here in Procurement Tactics, we negotiate as part human beings and part machines. Just negotiating simply on intuition, without any form of preparation, is like walking inside a burning building drenched in gasoline. It's a pure gamble that is bound to have serious consequences. A professional negotiator is someone who walks in with all types of scenarios already written down in his/her head. He/She is the man/woman with the plan. Before the negotiations can start, a seasoned negotiator should already have disposed of every available resource he/she has to come up with information about the negotiations and the parties who are going to attend. Only with data can he/she come up with offers, counter-offers, and concessions should there be a need to raise one.

    5. Negotiation Skills Can't Be Learned; it's either you have it or you don't.

    Okay, this is the most ridiculous myth out of the ten. It is so ridiculous because it undermines the human capacity to think, learn and adapt. While it is true that not all people are born to be great negotiators, that is only due to one part of their personality. The other part has something to do with knowledge. People can learn and be trained to become the best negotiators in the world. Even the best negotiators out there didn't become successful until later in their careers. They too have their brush-ins with failure multiple times. Negotiations can be a tricky subject, but it is something that can be learned through perseverance, knowledge, and thousands of hours of practice!

    6. Negotiating is easy. You can negotiate ahead without preparation as long as you know what's being talked about

    This is a very fatalistic approach towards negotiations because you are walking right into a trap. Negotiating without preparation is like you going to war without a weapon in hand. You need to be prepared to be able to tackle negotiations. How are you going to defend yourself against offers and counter-offers if you don't have a clue as to what the other party is negotiating for?

    7. When it comes to negotiation, you go directly to the point.

    Nothing ruins a good negotiation like a negotiator who goes directly to the point of the matter. No, we're not saying that being direct is a problem, but directly diving into the negotiation point is a surefire way to get yourself alienated by the other party. And once that happens, no one is going to listen to what you have to say. To be open about what you want is always a good idea, but don't always rush it: if there is nothing to give away later in the negotiation, it will be harder to achieve your goal.

    8. To win a negotiation, all you do is push towards what you want. There is no room for give-and-take situations.

    The rule of giving and taking concessions is a must during negotiations. To not break down negotiations after a lengthy and difficult discussion, a concession is always shown to give both parties a break. This break can be used to meet another time for re-negotiation or for thinking of other offers that can be brought to the table. If you don't like the idea, then you are going to get a walk-away every single time.

    9. During negotiations, winning is all that matters. Cultural backgrounds can be disregarded.

    If you're trying to become a world-class negotiator but you fail to understand cultural backgrounds, then you need some re-education. Cultural backgrounds play an important part in negotiations because many negotiation styles are incorporated with pieces of cultural background. Check this article to learn more about the impact of culture on negotiations.

    10. When negotiating, it's okay to be angry. Emotions are an integral part of negotiations.

    Ah yes, the most common negotiation myth of all. We often see this in some movies, right? It's always a wrong idea to mix in too many emotions while negotiating. You will most likely see yourself screaming, crying, or even flat-out walking away from a negotiation even if there's no reason to. It's a general rule to keep your emotions in check during negotiations. Always keep a cool head, but be passionate when delivering your offer or if you need to stir up the other party to take action or make a decision. In short, the key to negotiating effectively is to use your emotions at a moderate pace.

    Full article here.

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    I'm considering starting a healthy and organic grass fed jerky business

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 06:02 AM PST

    Things like wild caught salmon jerky, liver jerky, pasture raised pork rinds, crispy organic chicken skin, and grass fed organic jerky. There are a few competitors in this space, but not much at all. How do I start?

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    Looking for graphic design work!! (Free)

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 11:43 AM PST

    Studied graphic design a few years ago but followed a different path

    Now looking to really give it a crack however need to update my portfolio

    If anyone is looking for any graphic design work completed id be happy to help out for free! Send me a DM.

    Thanks :)

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    Have an idea for a thing but not sure how to go about making a prototype. Any help is appreciated

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 09:33 AM PST

    Had an idea for a product. I know I'd certainly get some use out of it. Basically it's a plastic box but it's going to need to be Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi compatible. Not a super complicated PS5 "plastic box" more like a simple and slightly electric Tupperware kind (in complexity not material). Maybe a prototype could be 3D printed but can you 3D print electrical components? So for an actual working prototype would I have to contact a factory or something to get them to make it? Not sure how to go about it. Would appreciate any ideas or feedback.

    If anyone knows a company or whatever that could do a cheap prototype let me know pls

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    Business Name Survey

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 03:27 PM PST

    Hey guys,

    For my school project, I am designing a website in which users can access for free and input available ingredients to obtain a list of high-quality, healthy meals composed of ONLY fresh, organic ingredients that promote healthy eating habits.

    I have many choices for business name and I need your inputs on which of the six names sound most appealing, catchy, and creative.

    I appreciate your votes! Thank you

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    Selling Instagram Theme Page

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 03:20 PM PST

    Hey not sure if this is a place I can post this, but I am selling one of my Instagram theme pages. It has over 150k people in the animal niche.

    Gets around 1m reach and average posts get around 50k views and 100+ comments.

    Let me know if interested, I will provide more info. I just don't have time to run this one anymore with the other pages I run

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    Pride or make it easy?

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 03:06 PM PST

    For YouTube creators, would you rather edit your own videos or let others do it, saving you time?

    Follow up question, will your answer be the same if it'll be a paid video that your subscribers would have to pay for?

    Thanks for your contribution!

    View Poll

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    Venmo or Zelle for customers payments?

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 03:05 PM PST

    Has any businesses used Zelle, cash app or venmo to receive customer payments online or offline? Having a challenge with merchant companies currently. High fees and other limitations. Looking for other lower cost options. Please help

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    Oddly hard to find information.

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 03:01 PM PST

    Hello. I want to make and sell items through grocery stores. I have no idea what grocery stores pay for items. I am making gluten free flour and hoping to sell it retail for $10-12/pound. How much can I expect to receive from a natural foods store? Whole foods? Kroger's ? Or Wal-Mart? Also what if I sell to bakeries or restaurants?

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    As an entrepreneur, which would you prefer?

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 03:00 PM PST

    As a preface, I'm an online fitness coach looking to help entrepreneurs develop and maintain their fitness.

    From what business-owners have been telling me, entrepreneurs LOVE the idea of optimization and efficiency and I'm thinking of incorporating this into my clients' workouts. So my question here is, what would you prefer as a business owner yourself?

    1. Short, efficient workouts optimized to get the most bang for your buck in a short amount of time - less time working out, but results take longer

    OR

    1. Longer session workouts (30-90 minutes) dedicated to working HARDER - more rapid results, but more time commitment

    Would love to hear your thoughts!

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    Did anyone here actually succeeded with a shopify / dropshipping business?

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 02:48 PM PST

    If yes, how did you do it? And what are the most important lessons your learned?

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    Worst customer/ client stories?

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 02:45 PM PST

    Let's open up some can of worms 😅

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    I want to start an Exotic Candy business

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 02:24 PM PST

    I am interested in starting an Exotic Candy business and promote it through social media such as TikTok and Instagram. I have a few questions for some of you that are in this sort of candy niche.

    1. Where can I get these "exotic" candies supplied to me from?
    2. How much should I markup the candy
    3. What tips do you have that I can use to grow my business the fastest?
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    "I don't need a f--king coach to inspire me"

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 02:18 PM PST

    "I don't need a f--king coach to inspire me"

    Boy, is this true for entrepreneurship.

    The Sacremento Kings' Tristan Thompson gets it. He's an adult. He's a professional. He's responsible for bringing his motivated self to the court every night. That's his responsibility as a teammate and a player-- No outside inspiration required.

    A few months ago Elon Musk said something along the lines of, If you need a lot of external motivation, entrepreneurship is not for you. He was pilloried by some.

    I don't agree with Elon on much, but I do agree with this.

    Entrepreneurs, if you're reading LinkedIn or Reddit, or Facebook looking for inspiration you may be in the wrong field. Entrepreneurship is for the self-motivated. The ones who are inspired by the work, their teams, but the problems they're trying to solve. That should be enough inspiration.

    So many come here for inspiration-- or worse yet pay a "coach" for the same. Your inspiration and your motivation should be internal. If you're not internally motivated, change.

    You don't need no f--king coach.

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    Is flipping as a business considered impressive?

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 02:09 PM PST

    Just want to hear opinion. it seems anyone can get into it. all it requires is some cash initially and then just buy low sell high. that is all it is. I don't get why that would be considered impressive if someone does this as a full time job. care to elaborate?

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    Moved to a new city and troubles getting business back off the ground

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 10:09 AM PST

    First off, my business is photography/video with a little 3D animation. Basically media needs. Been doing photography for about 4 years now and back in 2019 I was working a contract job that ended in November. I didn't pick up another job, instead I pursued my photography and it honestly went really well. Up until march 2020 when the pandemic started. So 2020 was a wash, but start of 2021 and things picked back up again. All my work came from word of mouth, which is a issue since I moved all the way across the country a little over a month ago. Currently live in Austin TX and I am just having trouble getting my business off the ground. My work is great (have worked with some big music festivals photographing chainsmokers, and some other big artist) Very confident in what I do and offer. Facebook I have 850 followers. Have a website showcasing my work (will DM if requested). Just feels like there is a million photographers and videographers in the ATX area. Feels impossible to land any work here.

    Honestly any advice I could get would be helpful. I have landed one job so far here that was enough to pay my rent. But I have to have a plan come Feb 1st or I will have to go back to a 9-5. For a little more info; I have wedding experience, portraits, live events, products, anything that requires a camera really.

    Also touching on the 3D animation a bit, I have a degree in it and pretty good at that as well. I just moved away from it because I got sick of sitting at a computer for 10 hours a day. But it has made me good money in the past and is something I'm good at.

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    Sacrifice A Dollar Today For Five Dollars Tomorrow

    Posted: 18 Nov 2021 01:18 PM PST

    Yes, that is correct I didn't make a single dollar my first year in the SEO industry and even more so I actually lost money working with a lot of my clients. Now a lot of you might be thinking why would this guy take on clients knowing he's going to lose money especially in his first year where money is tight, and the reason being is that I knew I had to get my foot in the door to develop a customer base and I was willing to lose a dollar today for 5 dollars tomorrow.

    When I first started out I was a young kid fresh out of school and I spent hours a day cold calling, messaging, and really doing anything I could to get clients. This process would normally end the same way each time with businesses explaining to me how I wasn't established enough to work with them yet and maybe in the future once I had a bigger resume they would consider it. Now, this was frustrating as they were denying me work experience because I didn't have enough work experience so you could see the irony.

    Eventually, though I did receive a message from a small roofing company located in Pueblo Colorado. The owner said he had talked to other SEO companies and they were just too expensive as he barely had enough money to pay for his crew and all of his materials. Now for me, this wasn't a problem at the time as I still lived with my parents, and even more so I was focused on expanding my portfolio so any work would suit me. We agreed upon $500 a month which after backlinks, hosting, and any extra fees for my tools left me with almost no money but I was determined to make this work.

    Fast forward to today and his website has graced the first page in his service areas, and even more importantly he has given me a raise of $1000 a month while also helping me land 6 other service industry businesses by spreading the word of my business as he continues to grow. I'm truly thankful for this but none of it would've been possible if I didn't sacrifice a dollar back then for 5 more dollars today. So if there's advice I could give anyone it would be to stay the course and look at every situation as an opportunity because you never know how far it'll take you.

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