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    Daily General Discussion and spitballin thread - August 29, 2021 Investing

    Daily General Discussion and spitballin thread - August 29, 2021 Investing


    Daily General Discussion and spitballin thread - August 29, 2021

    Posted: 29 Aug 2021 02:02 AM PDT

    Have a general question? Want to offer some commentary on markets? Maybe you would just like to throw out a neat fact that doesn't warrant a self post? Feel free to post here!

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    Daily Advice Thread - All basic help or advice questions must be posted here. August 29, 2021

    Posted: 29 Aug 2021 02:01 AM PDT

    If your question is "I have $10,000, what do I do?" or other "advice for my personal situation" questions, you should include relevant information, such as the following:

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    Be aware that these answers are just opinions of Redditors and should be used as a starting point for your research. You should strongly consider seeing a registered financial rep before making any financial decisions!

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    What happens to my stock if China takes companies off the market?

    Posted: 28 Aug 2021 08:04 AM PDT

    I heard China is planning to ban new IPO's of Chinese companies on the US stock market. This got me concerned, and I was wondering if they are able to take down existing companies on the stock market like AliBaba, Tencent, and others.

    What happens if I buy shares of AliBaba and China takes these companies down. Do they do a stock by back or my money just disappears.

    Also I heard the us listing isn't the real stock. It's just some receipts Of a comporation Registered in the caymen islands that has an agreement to share profit. Is there any downside or something to be concerned about?

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    Should some crypto be a part of a diverse portfolio?

    Posted: 28 Aug 2021 11:32 AM PDT

    I've been diligent about investing and saving. I'm maxing all tax-sheltered investments but wondering what I can do with additional cash. I have an emergency account as well as a brokerage account for fun money. My family is doing well and our boys have 529 accounts. We feel like we're doing better than most

    Because of the potential asymmetric upside, should I be investing in BTC or ETH? Most of my traditional finance friends would say no but I believe they're biased and I'm missing out on being a part of something in its infancy?

    MOD - please delete if this thread is against the rules.

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    What are good “Buy and forget” stocks if I already own long term ETFS?

    Posted: 28 Aug 2021 02:15 PM PDT

    I'm invested in $SPXL & $TQQQ and I'm in it enough where I wouldn't want to buy more unless there's a decent dip. I want to buy other stocks to diversify more but with spxl & tqqq don't those mostly cover all the "buy and hold" stocks? For example Why would I buy Apple if I'm already invested in it through those two ETFs.

    I have exposure to precious metals as it's a big hobby of mine, I have enough in crypto for me to feel comfortable, but LETF's seem to be what has been working best for me. Does it make sense to even look into other stocks since most everything I see is underperforming LETFs right now? And before you ask, I'm totally fine with volatility as long as I believe it to be worth the ride. Thanks for your time!

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    What tools do I need to start playing with the full data set?

    Posted: 28 Aug 2021 06:50 AM PDT

    Hi all,

    I am financial professional I have never traded outside of simple fidelity brokerage and 401k funds/etfs. I however am very interested in playing around with the historical stock market data set. I'm not taking about individual company fundamental research but rather factor research at the market level. I want to be able to see the entire data set of publicly traded stocks with all associated data, (multiples, std dev, beta, sharpe etc.. etc etc etc, as well as monthly returns. ) as well as all technicals .

    I want to be able to sort by this thing and then filter for the other thing. See what happens if I take the the highest xyz multiple stocks and then filter for only ones who have x% earnings growth over the last Z years, and then sort the resulting pool by blah blah blah.

    I want to make hypotheses about technical trading strategies and then back test them. To get more on the weeds, I want to run regressions of returns against various random factors just as an act of learning and exploration of buy and hold quantitative strategy development . I know how to do regressions on excel but what I don't know is how to find all the historical data that I want.

    I just want to be able to fully explore all the available data, both technical and fundamental, for the entire market, in an excel style worksheet, and use it to come up with hypothetical strategies, for fun, and maybe in the future for more.

    Then I would also like to backtest the strategies that I come up with as a learning tool.

    I am a CFA so I have the knowledge and expertise to work with and understand the data but I don't know how to actually source the data and what the proper tools are for doing this type of work.

    Like, say I wanted to start a quant shop, what tools would I need to begin researching formulating my hypothesis? I have this urge to play with all the historical data but don't know the best venue to do it.

    What tools should I use to get started? How can I track moving averages for value versus growth over rolling 3 month periods and compare and contrast and then filter for certain range of multiples in a certain sector blah blah. I just want to start playing with it all but I am not familiar with the tools.

    I mean, I have experience with a Bloomberg terminal and Morningstar but I feel like that's insufficient. I guess I just want to know what the industry is using for this type of research.

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    Question on difference of dividend yields between FNILX and VFIAX?

    Posted: 28 Aug 2021 11:48 AM PDT

    Shouldn't they be the same thing? I'm invested in FNILX mostly because of there being no expense ratio, but am I losing money? I have $10k in FNILX. Should I be moving this to VFIAX? If it's any help, I use the fidelity brokerage. Please let me know what is the best thing to do now. Should I move to VFIAX? Am I loosing more money through FNILX despite the expense ratio?

    I'm adding some additional text here that you can ignore because there is a word limit for this subreddit, but i'd rather work on being concise and save you time. but please, ignore this and see the text above and please tell me why dividend yields are different and if i shoudl change something.

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    Gold v. Sliver v. Platinum

    Posted: 28 Aug 2021 08:26 AM PDT

    Why is there so little talk about platinum as a place to store wealth? You hear people talking about gold and silver so much more. Is it because it corelates closer with the economic cycles because it is used more for production while gold and silver are better hedges against stocks and market downturns? Or is it more so because the price has been cut in half over the past decade so no one is talking about it? Does anyone know how this compares to around 2010 when platinum was at $2000 per oz?

    From what I understand about platinum is it is scarcer than gold and harder to mine as well. I've always wondered and it's even hard to find any news/information about it.

    Edit: From the little I know about gold and platinum, I believe gold is also used for electronics which is a growing industry and platinum is used in automotive industry, which is being disrupted by electric vehicles. That could also be a reason for the decline. Just thought I'd add this to the discussion

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    Good description of the underlying chinese index's for chinese ETF's

    Posted: 28 Aug 2021 02:24 PM PDT

    Basically what the title says, some of the chinese ETF's have reasonable descriptions, like tracks the Shanghai 100, or the Hong Kong 25 or something..... however some of the smaller etf's track index's that I have no idea what the underlying is. Trying to see if there is a place to get a good description of some of the chinese ETF's underlying bench mark index's.

    Some of them are

    • FTSE China Incl A 25% Technology Capped Net Tax (US RIC) (TR)
    • The CSI Overseas China Internet
    • The FTSE China 50 Index
    • FTSE China RIC Capped Index
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    How or Why is the cryptocurrencies considered an investment and not a gamble?

    Posted: 28 Aug 2021 06:31 PM PDT

    So when you buy bitcoin you buy it and push the price up.
    Hoping other people buy into it after you and push the price up - so you benefit.

    When the price goes high enough, you dump it.
    Thereby screwing over the other people who come in after you.

    So this is how you make money.

    The game is to make sure you get in and out before too many other people decide to dump it.

    Someone can tweet the price might go up a bit, false news about amazon adopting it (or some other news) gets created to drive the price up, exchanges pay news channels to have bitcoin talking heads on to promote this speculation, the chinese miners get shut down (and dump) the price tanks,

    Not to mention the ticking time bomb that is the fraudulent stablecoins (operating off the cayman islands) or how 90% of the trades in cryptocurrencies is done by futures/options trading off the sketchy exchanges (manipulating the price) many of which are in the cayman islands.

    Right now, why is bitcoin considered an "investment" and not a gamble?

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    What Is the best way to get leverage?

    Posted: 28 Aug 2021 09:27 AM PDT

    I am very bearish on the dollar. therefore, I am trying to find the way to be levered dollars and buy hard or soft assets. Some of the major ideas:

    -buy far ITM options (basically leveraged stock)

    -get a home loan ( high loan amount but big capital outlay of 20%)

    -play in forex (can get very leverage, but I don't know what currency to buy)

    Anyone have any thoughts about the best way to essentially be in debt, for a lack of a better term?

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