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    Formal posting guidelines for political topics and what constitutes investment vs corporate news. **READ BEFORE COMMENTING IN THIS SUB PLEASE** Investing

    Formal posting guidelines for political topics and what constitutes investment vs corporate news. **READ BEFORE COMMENTING IN THIS SUB PLEASE** Investing


    Formal posting guidelines for political topics and what constitutes investment vs corporate news. **READ BEFORE COMMENTING IN THIS SUB PLEASE**

    Posted: 01 Sep 2019 12:31 PM PDT

    Alright everyone, it looks like we had pretty broad support in this thread when it comes to cracking down on the hyper partisanship that's been spilling out of the political subreddits to all corners of reddit. In this thread I'm going to lay out some formal guidelines for comments on political topics. Since this is so widespread I want to be clear here: this post is everyone's formal warning. That means temporary or in some cases permanent bans are being handed out for people who violate said guidelines immediately. This is really the only way to deal wit this issue. I'm going to try to get automod to sticky applicable threads with this post as well.

    First lets address politics

    I want to note something first: we are absolutely enforcing higher posting standards for political threads. I think it's entirely uncontroversial to point out that calling Warren Buffett an asshole doesn't nearly stir up the anger that calling any given political figure an asshole will. Comments like that being upvoted quickly derail threads and drive the discussion away from investing.

    So here's the simple guideline which I'll expand on: you're free to express your opinion so long as it's tied to investing, you put effort in to it, and it's civil. We're not here to stop the free flow of discussion or ideas but we are here to keep discussion surrounding investing and civil.

    Tied to investing: this should be pretty straightforward but I'm laying it out here anyway. Investing encompasses markets, economic impacts, corporate profits, shifts in the yield curve, the federal reserve, taxes, potential government spending that may impact your portfolio.

    Investing does not encompass immigration, personal lives of politicians, social issues, climate change(unless specifically within the context of impact to energy or similar), how you feel about a particular news organization's potential biases, etc. If it's not in the first list it's probably not investing related. Making comments pertaining to non investment related politics only serves to drive the conversation off course and create a thread that is indistinguishable from one in a political subreddit. Driving conversation off topic in high level comments by bringing up politics in unrelated threads also falls in this category.

    Effort: no shitposts. If you're not conveying a thought or analysis of a particular subject then it's probably best to not post. Furthermore top level comments like "fuck my portfolio" don't help keeping conversation on track. Lastly and most importantly anything that falls in to the political meme universe isn't going to fly here. That means if you're repeating something like TDS, MAGA, trade wars are good and easy to win, Pocahontas, orange man bad, any of the millions of nicknames for the president, very stable genius, any given childish spin on Democrat/republican(ex DemocRAT or Republitard), etc isn't tolerated. These sorts of things only serve to agitate those on the opposite end of the political spectrum and create partisan arguments.

    Your post should be something like "I disagree/agree with Trump here because [policy] will do XYZ which is good/bad for ABC and blah blah blah blah". If you are unable to express an investment related position on a topic without insults and memes then you probably should just go to a political subreddit and comment there.

    Special note here: conspiracy theories about politics and markets are not allowed. If you are going to imply criminal market manipulation or insider trading proof in the form of reporting or other documentation is necessary. This is not a place for baseless accusations derived from political leaning.

    Civility: so we already don't allow personal attacks here. Generally speaking many people identify so closely with political parties and politicians that they react to political attacks the same way they will to personal attacks. I get it, people get worked up over politics. Translating that emotion to a post here only serves to have people with opposing views get similarly worked up. This isn't an appropriate subreddit for that. We're here to discuss investing. So any comment that would violate our personal attacks rule if you made it towards another user is prohibited against political parties or figures. /r/investing is not a platform for people to express their outrage towards politicians or political parties. There are tons of subreddits for that sort of thing.

    So now that the guidelines are made clear, here's the consequences. In our observation the vast majority of people engaging in political attacks and low effort posts are not regular contributors. They tend to frequent political subreddits and engage in political attacks elsewhere. So we're automatically handing out 30 day bans for violation of the above rules. If you feel like your ban was in error or unfair you can appeal in modmail but we're not really inclined to reverse decisions if you aren't already a regular contributor. For egregious offenses the ban may be 60 days or permanent. For overt racism, death threats against any public figure, or similar there is an automatic permanent ban.

    Now Corporate vs Investment News

    /u/crasymike did an awesome job laying out the general guidelines here: https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/b3ss3q/topics_being_removed_corporate_news_vs_investor/

    I'm going to just copy some of the hard guidelines here so they're in the same place but take a look at that thread to see a full explanation.

    tl;dr Not all corporate news is investment news. If you post a topic the onus is on you to guide the discussion towards investing. If the moderators feel that a topic lacks relevance (which is more clearly defined below) then it might be removed. Off-topic top-level comments have similar standards applied to them.

    This means that the onus is on you as the person posting the topic to guide the discussion. As moderators all we can do is remove offending comments, but we can't incite relevant discussion in every topic.

    Tell us, why is this political news impactful? Seek out an article that discusses market impacts rather than a generic article. If you want to post corporate news then find an article that includes the impact on the investment. Copy that information into the body of your post. Include price history. Add other pertinent links or details for the corporate.

    If you include no relevant investing information then don't be surprised if the topic is completely derailed from discussing investing. If you are posting a topic you need to invite people to talk about investing by using an article, or including information, that is pertinent to investors.

    As moderators, we have a few policies that we use to guide ourselves. This is a broad rule that requires some interpretation, but here we go:

    • If we can't figure out how your topic relates to investing, and the article doesn't include any (or extremely little) market news, and the body of your post doesn't link the topic to investing we will probably remove it as off-topic.

    • If your topic has an indirect relation to investing (such as being about a public company, or is major market shifting news) but you included no market information and the article(s) you linked have no investing information we may remove it if we feel that there is no clear reason to expect on-topic comments.

    • If someone posts a top-level comment on a thread that completely derails away from investing we will probably remove it.

    If the policies above would result in the modteam seemingly needing to remove nearly every top level comment in a thread, and we felt like your thread is "borderline" not investing news, then we will take this as confirmation that the topic wasn't investing news. If the entire conversation in a thread is already driven off topic by political attacks or off topic discussion we will lock and remove a thread no matter how topical it is. Please do your part and downvote/report political attacks even if you agree with them. This will prevent us from just nuking a thread

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    Daily Advice Thread - All basic help or advice questions must be posted here.

    Posted: 07 Jan 2021 02:00 AM PST

    If your question is "I have $10,000, what do I do?" or other "advice for my personal situation" questions, you should include relevant information, such as the following:

    • How old are you? What country do you live in?
    • Are you employed/making income? How much?
    • What are your objectives with this money? (Buy a house? Retirement savings?)
    • What is your time horizon? Do you need this money next month? Next 20yrs?
    • What is your risk tolerance? (Do you mind risking it at blackjack or do you need to know its 100% safe?)
    • What are you current holdings? (Do you already have exposure to specific funds and sectors? Any other assets?)
    • Any big debts (include interest rate) or expenses?
    • And any other relevant financial information will be useful to give you a proper answer.

    Please consider consulting our FAQ first - https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/wiki/faq And our side bar also has useful resources.

    Be aware that these answers are just opinions of Redditors and should be used as a starting point for your research. You should strongly consider seeing a registered financial rep before making any financial decisions!

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    TSLA - Tesla market value today is more valuable than all the world's major auto makers combined - what gives?

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 06:53 PM PST

    Tesla market value today (716 Billion) is about the same as the market value of all the world's major car makers combined. In addition China's BYDDY (86B) and Nio (78B) are both more valuable than Daimler (74B) even though NIO only delivered less than 40,000 cars in all of 2020 with huge loss. China's LI and XPEV combined market value are similar to GM (61B), which has production in China and has a worldwide lineup of EV to be on the market in the next few years.

    With the exception of autonomous driving, EV manufacturing appears to have a low technology barrier to entry, that's why we have so many EV car companies pops up all over the world. Everybody used the same Total Addressable Market to justify their future value. I don't think autonomous driving is a must have in buying an EV, so the competition will be intense once all ICV companies start to produce their lineup of EVs in the near future.

    Since Auto industry is a cyclical business, historically, the market value of the auto companies were somewhat depressed as compared to other high growth industries. Since there is a limit on how many cars will be sold in a year based on historical trends, I don't know how we can justify doubling or tripling the total market value of the whole auto industry unless all the non-Tesla companies lost significant amount of their market value, which is not likely (you are talking about fierce competitors like Toyota, Daimler, Honda, GM, etc)

    The first movers (Tesla, BYDDY, Nio, Xpev) are catching all the investment dollars, driving their stock to current nose bleeding price. Once all major car makers start to deliver EVs, supply and demand will determine their profit margin, future cash flow and true present value.

    What do you think? How long will this EV mania last?

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    Perhaps the biggest narrative on CNBC in the past few months has that the markets wanted divided government. This didn't happen and the market is booming. Be wary of what you hear in the financial news.

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 08:18 AM PST

    Perhaps the biggest narrative on CNBC in the past few months has that the markets wanted divided government. This has been supported by nearly every anchor. This didn't happen and the market is booming. Be wary of what you hear in the financial news.

    I'm not saying I know for certain why the market is going up today. I'm saying that CNBC was so sure it would go down on a democratic sweep and that's clearly not happening. Be careful about agendas in financial news, especially CNBC. It's all just confirmation bias day after day. (Not saying it doesn't have entertainment value; just be careful.)

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    The total value of all cryptocurrencies passed $1 trillion Wednesday for the first time ever, per CoinGecko‘s index of 6,124 assets.

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 04:39 PM PST

    A big part of this is Bitcoin rallying, but also a lot of other cryptocurrencies are up 50-150% this week. Ethereum, the second largest, is up 61%. Stellar notably has jumped up 164%.

    The rally appears to have been prompted by regulatory guidance allowing banks to transact in stablecoins, as the biggest winners have been blockchains that participate in that space.

    https://www.coindesk.com/cryptocurrency-market-value-record-1-trillion http://coingecko.com/

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    Europe's plug in EV market grows 198% YoY in November. Tesla drops out of the top 3

    Posted: 07 Jan 2021 02:21 AM PST

    https://cleantechnica.com/2020/12/29/record-electric-vehicle-sales-in-europe/

    Renault Zoe - 9953 Vehicles Sold Volkswagen ID.3 - 8496 Vehicles Sold Hyunday Kona EV - 5375 Vehicles Sold Tesla Model 3 - 5014 Vehicles Sold Mercedes A250e - 4517 Vehicles Sold

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    Tesla's incredible run continues, up 28% in the last month and 15% in the last week. Now at $3850 pre split and $770 post split

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 09:03 AM PST

    Over the last 3 months there were endless discussion and a analysis suggesting that the tesla bubble was going to pop anytime now. It appears that tesla is going to be permanently viewed as a ~600B company at minimum going forward.

    For those who are familar with Gary Black. He provides nuanced projections for testla and his price target is around ~$840.

    Key Analysts

    1/ $8T Active Mgr buying (now)

    2/ MIC Y launch (now)

    3/ Street ups FY'21 Est/PTs (1/4)

    4/ CyTrck update (1/15)

    5/ FSD MRR launch (1/15)

    6/ Biden inaugural/EV credit (1/20)

    7/ 4Q EPS $1.06 v $0.93 (1/27)

    8/ FY'21 Deliv 840K v 777K (1/27)

    For bulls and bears, what are your thoughts on the stock.

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    Balancing FOMO and the inevitable correction/bubble burst.

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 03:58 AM PST

    I have been investing since 2008 when I was in college and recognized a unique opportunity and realized that my $5,000 savings was not much compared to my future earnings. So I dumped my money into WF and turned it into about $15k in a year. Since about 2011, I have been investing in mainly ETF index funds with the occasional individual stock. I have a 401K thru work that invests in 2 separate index funds where about half my money is. Another 25% is in IRAs that I use to actively trade individual stocks and another 25% is in a brokerage account where I had a few ETF (ARKK and VB) and a mutual fund. Last year all my accounts performed well, especially my IRA due to some lucky trade timing. My 2020 return was about 30% overall. However, early this week I sold a bunch of assets in my IRA and brokerage account and am sitting on about 40% cash. Only holding ARKK and the funds in my 401K.

    Question is, is anyone else struggling to balance the FOMO on this crazy overvalued momentum swing versus a belief that an inevitable correction is going to occur? I am paralyzed in deciding to get back in because when I look at all these fundamentals none of it is making sense. That doesn't even account for the elephant in the room of the impact all this stimulus may have by causing potential hyperinflation. My strategy has always been to sell when valuations become absurd. Historically I have always been able to find other value and buy back in. Now I am struggling because it seems like everything is overvalued.

    UPDATE: First time posting to r/investing and lots of interaction here. Thanks for all the feedback. I think the thing I take away is a made a trading mistake by trying to time the market and play into the huge momentum rally this year. It helped me get good gains this year but is a challenge for me mentally to get back in. So, I have taken the advice of lots of people on this thread that 'time in the market is better than timing' and traded back in today.

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    What would happen if BABA get delisted to my stocks?

    Posted: 07 Jan 2021 02:25 AM PST

    Is there any samples of what happens then? It's value of 8 BABA stocks on HK exchange. Doesn't say what that means to a casual. How these backing stocks would come to me?

    Also, what about these TCEHY ADRs? Would they have the same right to be converted to real underlining stock?

    I unloaded some Chinese stocks for fears a some time ago and missed huge jumps but BABA and TCEHY seems to at least be solid firms regardless of possible deceitfulness in bookkeeping among Chinese firms and with current USA market valuations craze seems these are valued "fairly".

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    U.S. Weighs Adding Alibaba, Tencent to China Stock Ban

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 03:21 PM PST

    Jan. 6, 2021 5:48 pm ET

    U.S. officials are considering prohibiting Americans from investing in Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and Tencent Holdings Ltd., a potential escalation of the outgoing Trump administration's efforts to unwind U.S. investors' holdings in major Chinese companies.

    State and Defense Department officials in recent weeks have discussed expanding a blacklist of companies prohibited to U.S. investments over alleged ties to China's military and security services, according to people familiar with the matter. The U.S. government announced its original blacklist in November with 31 companies.

    Tencent and Alibaba are China's two most valuable publicly listed companies, with a combined market capitalization of over $1.3 trillion and scores of American mutual funds and other investors holding their shares. U.S. listed units of Alibaba fell more than 5% on Wednesday, and Tencent tumbled by about 4%.

    The blacklist is one of several Trump administration efforts related to investing in Chinese firms. Also on Wednesday, the New York Stock Exchange said it would delist three major Chinese telecommunication carriers targeted by a Trump executive order, after earlier scrapping the plan following "new specific guidance" from the Treasury Department.

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    Roth IRA 2021 picks

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 07:22 PM PST

    Hi all,

    Hoping I can get some feedback on the ETFs I'm eyeing for 2021. Currently, I'm 80% on VTSAX and 20% on VTIAX so I'm looking to diversify a bit.

    Would it be a good move to go 100% on clean energy this year with the new presidency? It would be 50% ICLN and 50% ACES?

    The other ETF I'm eyeing is ARKK . I would go 50% ARKK and 50% ICLN or ACES.

    Any feedback or ETF recommendations are much appreciated!

    Thanks for your time

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    Examples of Investments with Worthless Resale Value?

    Posted: 07 Jan 2021 01:20 AM PST

    This might seem obscure, but I am trying to think of investments that have no resale value after purchasing, but that do return expected cashflows.

    Alternatively, (1) investments with transaction costs so high that it would essentially never make sense to resell, or (2) investments whose residual resale value diminish relatively quickly.

    This can be in any context; Individual retail investing, Businesses investing in $x, etc.

    Appreciate any responses!

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    Oatly, vegan food brand backed by Oprah, is planning to IPO this year, sources say

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 06:26 AM PST

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/05/oatly-vegan-food-brand-backed-by-oprah-is-planning-to-ipo-this-year-sources-say.html

    Vegan milk brand Oatly is planning a 2021 initial public offering that could raise $1 billion, sources familiar said.

    The company, which is backed by Blackstone, Oprah Winfrey and Natalie Portman, has hired Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase and Credit Suisse to manage the offering, sources said.

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    You have to build a "Zombie Apocalypse" ETF. What stocks would you put in there?

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 03:56 PM PST

    "Zombie Apocalypse" is a stand in for all sorts of disasters -- like pandemic, massive earthquake, civil unrest, housing bubble collapse, etc. Two rules:

    • It has to be a stock that would be good (or at least ok) to own even when things are peaceful.
    • Your assumption is that the disaster is a big one, but country will eventually recover within 1-2 years.

    So for example:

    • Home Depot: People need to board up their homes during the disaster, and rebuild afterwards.
    • AXON: Police body cam and tasers. Also good after disaster because we're undergoing a increase demand for body cams for civil liberty reasons.
    • Palantir: Large scale problems require large scale solutions. And that requires data analysis.
    • Solar panel companies: During disasters people may buy more solar panels to become self sufficient. During peace times solar still saves money.

    This is just a fun thought exercise. Please don't turn this into a political discussion.

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    Are there location-specific REITs?

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 08:00 PM PST

    Im interested in real estate investing, but unfortunately I live in a pretty terrible location for it (coastal city with high home prices yet little appreciation year to year). I'd love to get in on some of the growth that some of the up-and-coming cities around the country are seeing. The idea of purchasing and managing a rental in another state is pretty daunting, so I'm curious about location-specific REITs. Are they a thing? Are there other ways I can invest in specific cities' real estate markets?

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    Analysis of the Top 3 Trending Stocks today January 7 2021.

    Posted: 07 Jan 2021 04:13 AM PST

    Hey Redditors,

    We have analyzed the top trending stocks today and we have given our opinion. Please express your in the comment section. Any constructive criticism is welcomed.

    https://rabbitholeinvestor.com/2021/01/07/top-trending-stocks-today-january-7-2021/

    The article includes Nio stock, FuelCell Energy stock and Plug Power stock.

    Have a great one :)

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    SOMO IPO comparison to competitors/similar stocks

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 10:47 PM PST

    SUMO : Price/sales = 13x, revenue growth YoY = 49.6%, Gross margin 71.3% (from S-1)

    FROG: Price/sales = 30x, revenue growth YoY = 40%, Gross margin 81% (from 10-Q)

    DDOG: Price/sales = 40x, revenue growth YoY = 68%, Gross margin 78% (from 10-Q)

    PLTR: Price/sales = 40x, revenue growth YoY = 52%, Gross margin 48.3% (PLTR press release)

    SNOW: Price/sales = 100x, revenue growth YoY = 121%, Gross margin 62%

    Thoughts? This is a hidden gem maybe?

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    Capital Gains Tax under Biden's Plan

    Posted: 07 Jan 2021 02:26 AM PST

    Hello, This question is not really for me, but my mom and we know basically nothing about taxes. She has worked her entire life for a private company. She was paid in cash (around 50k a year) and stock. Her stock is now valued at a few million dollars and the company is actually being sold. Under Biden's proposed plan, you are taxed at around 40% for capital gains if you have an income of over $1 million. So I am guessing my mom would be taxed at 40%, right? So she will be paying twice the amount in taxes under the new plan?

    Thanks for the help

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    Favorite Stocks

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 08:15 PM PST

    What are some of your favorite stocks for the long term and why?

    Mine are - ROKU, TTD (the trade desk), Tesla, NVDA (Navidea), PTON (Peloton)

    I expect rapid technology change across all industries in the next decade including tv streaming trends and cable chord cutting, electronic cars, stay at home gyms, and "the digital revolution." These companies are well positioned to handle that change.

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    VFIAX Vs. VTSAX?

    Posted: 07 Jan 2021 01:54 AM PST

    Hi everyone,

    I have $5,000 that I want to invest in an index fund. I have pretty much narrowed it down to VFIAX and VTSAX, but I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to invest in a S&P 500 index fund or a total market index fund. I heard that it is better to have more diversification, but about 80% of VTSAX is in the S&P 500. Morningstar says that VFIAX has an average risk, and VTSAX has an above average risk. Which do you guys think would be a better index fund to invest in if I am planning to keep it for 10+ years?

    Thanks in advance.

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    $DHI, Question about Cash Flow from Operations

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 06:53 PM PST

    I was looking at $DHI, and they seem like a great company. #1 U.S. home builder by homes sold, increasing revenue and net profit, good balance sheet, and in no financial threat. They are doing much better than their competitors, because they operate throughout the sunbelt of America and provide fairly cheap homes(~$300,000 avg). This, I believe, has a lot of potential, because more people are moving down south and into suburbs. With affordable homes and demand, I see a great future for this company.

    My only concern is their Cash Flow from Operations(CFO) is slightly lagging behind their Net Income. Their CFO is almost half of their Net Income. I've checked other companies in the home construction industry, and they don't seem to have this problem. I might be missing something, or I might be over exaggerating this issue, but I would like to hear your thoughts about this and what you think about this company and industry.

    Year 2017 2018 2019 TTM
    Net Income 1,038.4 1,460.3 1,618.5 2,373.7
    CFO 440.2 545.2 892.1 1,421.6

    What seems to be dragging this down is their Change In Inventories and their Change in Other Net Operating Assets. I was also wondering if someone could help me break down these 2 terms. Thanks in advance!

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    Tax question

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 05:15 PM PST

    Are there any tax filing platforms that are better for reporting sold stocks? I used H&R Block last year and they charged $10 per sale. That's a lot of money I'd rather not pay and I'm not sure if there are other options available or if every service charges similarly.

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    Stocks vs Real estate ?

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 03:58 AM PST

    Hey guys,

    I am fully aware that I should definitely not base my decisions on the internet but I know that there are some experienced users here and maybe they would like to give their opinion.

    I was supposed to go finish my bachelor in Australia but due to the pandemic, it will be delayed from 6 months to a year. I have about 40k in my bank account since it was supposed to cost me that and I currently have a revenue of about 70k/year.

    I already started to invest in the stock market a little bit but since I am going to be staying here I want to invest much more. My two options are the following:

    1. Drop 20k in stocks and wait.
    2. Buy a condo with down payment of 20k and rent it out (I still live at my parent's place)

    I know it is not a very common situation but I feel like it's time for me to make some move but I don't know very much yet so any recommendations will greatly help!

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    Convertible Bonds Basics

    Posted: 07 Jan 2021 12:10 AM PST

    Can anyone point me in a direction for a good resource so I can learn the basics of them? I am interested in learning the basics to see if it could be part of my career way down the road. I am entering college and I have an interest in the stock market, but I would really like to know about Convertible Bonds and would like to know the best resource in which to start out with. (This would have been much shorter if there was no word minimum).

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    Day trade question

    Posted: 06 Jan 2021 11:38 PM PST

    Just a guy wanting to day trade here. Lets say I have robinhood account which has $0 trade fees. If I day trade with it can I trade unlimited times in a day looking for small profits? For example buy at $1 sell at $2 and wait for it hits $1again and repeat. Just wondering thanks in advance

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