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    I'm tired of being broke. I want to make money. No degree, no real sales experience. What are my options? Sales and Selling

    I'm tired of being broke. I want to make money. No degree, no real sales experience. What are my options? Sales and Selling


    I'm tired of being broke. I want to make money. No degree, no real sales experience. What are my options?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2018 06:55 AM PDT

    Title. I'm so fucking tired of living paycheck to paycheck, watching my parents suffer and struggle. I want to make money, and a lot of it eventually. But my focus right now is to make decent cash as quick as possible, (45k+) without having to go to college. I'm sure I will go to school down the line, but right now I don't have that kind of time. I need cash now.

    I make $17.50/hr at a manufacturing plant and I hate it. I've worked in grunt labor manufacturing all my life and it doesn't align with anything I want to do. I like business, talking to people, marketing, and anything to do with fitness. I will do whatever it takes, I have a fire lit under my ass.

    So no degree (yet), and no real sales experience aside from food service. What are my options? 45-50k feasible in a year with my limited credentials? Thank you for your time salesmen.

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    Why you should get out of car sales ASAP (From a former salesman)

    Posted: 28 Apr 2018 07:32 PM PDT

    Anyone selling cars out there? I will give you a perspective of someone who took the leap and got out of there. Let me tell you some of the demoralizing thoughts I had before I did it:

    -I won't make this kind of money anywhere else

    -I'm "next in line" to be a finance manager any day now

    -My sales-manager promises me a promotion

    -This month is "the" month where I sell 20 cars

    -What will my teammates and manager's think if I quit?

    -I have too much to pay for, and starting over would crush me financially

    Long story short, I quit my job and am now making $20,000 per month owning my own painting company. No, I'm not saying leave and start a painting company because I had some great professions along the way.

    Let me make a few points: If you're a car salesman, it's a ticking time bomb. Within the next 5 years, car buying will be 80-90% online. Why? Because everyone hates going to the dealership. It's not your fault, they just hate it because they know one way or another they're going to be taken advantage of. Not everyone wakes up everyday with the strength to handle battling persistent car salesman amped up on red-bull, and sales managers working their 18th day in a row because they are unable to meet quota.

    Buying a car is like diving into a pool of hungry sharks, and your only way out is to buy. That's crazy in my opinion for something that is, for the average consumer, the second largest purchase they make in their life (besides a home)

    So long story short, buyers are getting smarter, and people are staying away - hence buying online.

    Next, say goodbye to your time. Car sales is physically and emotionally draining. 6, sometimes 7 days a week. 9+ hour days, all to make $250 on a new car? (Yes, for those of you who don't know, there's this thing called a "Flat" in the car business, you make $250 on a $30,000 car in most dealerships - this example is from Toyota)

    My last point is this. Pressuring people into making horrible buying decisions isn't worth it. Your integrity doesn't exist in a car dealership. Why? because the people who aren't financially smart enough to make smart financial decisions are the ones they prey on.

    Our dealership had pretty much flooded local market. Here's how it went. We would sell the cars (new) and have a stack of 100 leads per day of previous car buyers (1 year ago) that would "qualify" for a vehicle upgrade that would guarantee them the same payment. (of course it would! All they would do is stretch out the term (if they were at 60 months, they would finance the new one at 75 months and lower the payment)

    Long story short, my advice is to GET OUT! It's a dead end. Ask any car salesman, it's filet mignon one month, rice and noodles the next. Maybe this will inspire someone to take the leap they've been wanting to take, or maybe it will piss someone off who is "promised" a finance position. Get out, life is so much better on the other side. Best of luck!

    EDIT: Online car sales are also (aside from buying directly online through sites like Carvana) people doing business with the internet department at dealerships. They will have negotiated the numbers before even stepping into the dealership to avoid the face to face negotiation process. Some dealerships even have kiosks where you sit down, input what you are looking for, and a car hop drives the car to you to test drive. No negotiation at all.

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    Making the move from Loan Officer to B2B sales

    Posted: 29 Apr 2018 09:09 AM PDT

    Hi,

    A year ago, I took a sales position at a mortgage company. Within 6 months I was the consistent month to month top performer in the company (calling internet leads to begin mortgage applications). I was recently 'promoted' to a salaried position as a mortgage loan officer, where I am no longer 'selling' at all.

    I want to work in B2B sales where my talent can shine. I'm looking at startups, smaller SaaS companies, and industrial positions right now.

    I am looking for advice in regards to what size of a company I should work for, what industries I should be looking in, and anything else. Specifically, any advice regarding applying for jobs, LinkedIn networking with managers, cold calling and speaking to recruiters would be much appreciated. I am willing to do whatever it takes.

    I live in the Northeast US and am looking to move to Boston, about an hour and a half from where I live now.

    I am very hungry to work in sales again and appreciate any and all advice. Thanks.

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    What are your thoughts on "Way of the Wolf" Jordan Belfort?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2018 10:23 AM PDT

    What are your thoughts on the book "Way of the Wolf" Jordan Belfort?

    Would that be the best book to help someone like me working an inside sales job that, does NOT require prospecting instead customers call me

    I am a beginner in sales, would his book/audiobook be a good place to start?

    I have heard good things, however Jordan Belfort is so popular wouldn't his techniques eventually become stale because SO MANY people who study sales knows who he is, and his techniques will eventually become overused and become familiar to customers, thus sounding "Salesy"

    I could be reading too much into it, as I haven't read the book yet

    If you think this is a good book to start, what is ANOTHER sales book I should use to supplement this book?

    Feel free to recommend any other book, but keep in mind I ALSO have these books below in my collection


    How to be a Great Salesperson by Monday Morning

    Fanatical Prospecting

    Sales EQ

    Combo Prospecting

    Power Phone Scripts

    Spin Selling

    Pitch Anything

    New Sales Simplified

    The Lost Art of Closing

    The Real Secrets of the Top 20%

    The Perfect Close

    Be A Sales Superstar

    Beyond the Sales Process

    How I raised myself from success to failure in selling

    To Sell is Human

    The Psychology of Selling

    The Only Sales Guide You'll Ever Need

    Sell or Be Sold

    Secrets of Closing the Sale

    High Profit Prospecting

    More Sales Less Time

    Telesales Secrets

    Exactly How to Sell

    The Introverts Edge

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    I’m trying to get a job in sales. Any tips and pointers? What’s the most important thing for me to remember?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2018 11:44 AM PDT

    I already know I need to sell myself, but any tips on that? Is a resume most important?

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    Offer advice

    Posted: 29 Apr 2018 11:38 AM PDT

    Looking for advice on a couple of offers I've received.

    I've recently made the decision to move into professional service sales - to contextualise, I have ~2 years tele/field sales experience for a company that run a group of niche online job boards, being responsible for the end to end sales cycle.

    Recently received 2 offers, both of which are essentially SDR roles and both based in Manchester, UK.

    1. KPMG - Origination Executive (22k basic - OTE uncapped but new team) Focussing on the North West, I'll be responsible for booking meetings with private sector SME's that senior consultants and BDM's will then attend and close - this covers their full service offering with targeted campaigns dictating what service I'd be selling.

    2. Peninsula Business Services - Business Sales Executive (24k basic - OTE 40k) Working alongside a field based BDM I'd be booking meetings for them to attend and sell a range of HR services ranging from consultancy through to rota software and external H+S risk assessments, again to the SME sector.

    From a purely financial perspective the 2nd position is obviously the opportunity to take, however arguably is there better long-term prospects having had exposure to one of the Big 4 and their variety of services? Considering networking opportunities, client exposure etc?

    This is my first venture into professional services of which I have no contacts within so any guidance on which opportunity to take or any tips from people experienced in this industry would be greatly appreciated!

    Keep on smashing them targets all!

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    Is pest control sales worth it?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2018 11:26 AM PDT

    Currently in data sales making 70k-75k against draw selling data to small business B2B, but have reached my highest position possible with 3 major companies buying data, I'm looking into different sales positions

    I receive an offer from a colleague for a position in a small business pest control, he is guaranteeing 30k salary, 2.5k sign on bonus after 2 months, and 12% commission on sales, with residual commission, and a car .

    Does anyone know if the pest control market is worth going into, I have 2 years with B2B sales and speaking to c level executives.

    Anyone who has had experience with pest control sales.

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    What software tools do you use for outbound sales, specifically cold emailing?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2018 11:15 AM PDT

    I'm looking for suggestions on where to: 1. Buy email lists 2. What software to use to process the email list

    I found something via Google but I can't tell what is legit and what is not.

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    How would i go about getting a sales intern? Where can you get them?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2018 10:50 AM PDT

    I'm needing to grow my business and want to get a sales person but never had an intern before. Where do you get them? Should I pay them a salary or just commission or wait until the intern period is over?

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    I am being out performed by a 19 year old kid with less experience.

    Posted: 28 Apr 2018 10:44 PM PDT

    So I've been doing wireless sales for over 2 years now, I am 28. I am the second best rep in the whole market of about 20 people. However, there's this one kid who's been working at this job for only 7 months or so, and he makes a lot more sales than me. I am really feeling down on myself. Should I quit my job?

    My goal isn't to become a sales rep forever, my goal is to become manager. But why would they promote me if I am second best? I tried applying for management positions at other companies and never got a call back. Maybe it's my resume, idk. I have the experience

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    How bad is having two 10-month contract positions on my resume?

    Posted: 28 Apr 2018 09:05 PM PDT

    I taught for two years in different schools and have decided that teaching is not right for me. I think this isn't a big deal as far as schools are considered for hiring considering how badly many need science teachers. However, based on posts I have seen here it can be difficult to land a first sales job if you have left a position in under a year. How much will this work against me? Will it matter that these were contracted roles in a completely different industry?

    I was not terminated from either position. The first was far away from where I lived so I was living out of home during the week; after working in the second role I have decided that I do not want to be a teacher (so this is a career-change move).

    If it is relevant I graduated in 2016 with an Ivy degree so I feel that will work in my favor, but I don't want to be seen as a job-hopper or be discredited for having tenured two single-year position. If I provide enough explanation will this be understood?

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    Frustration from losing sales

    Posted: 28 Apr 2018 01:21 PM PDT

    Minor rant here, but I'm also looking for what I can do about this.

    Some context. I sell mobile homes as a leasing agent. I've recently been given more responsibility in the parks that has taken a bit of time away from sales. That being said, I still have a good amount of people messaging me and calling me about getting a home.

    Now, my manager also posts ads and has a minor responsibility of selling, but she mainly focuses on running the parks. We both are on salary and make commissions on sales, hers being lower as she's on a higher salary, and mine being a bit higher (500 a home).

    Here's where I'm getting frustrated. I'll have people call, set up appointments, no show, cancel, whatever. Or people come in, say they'll be back, and then dodge my calls when I follow up or keep giving me the run around. At that point I ditch the prospect and focus on getting new people in. But I've been working on these last three homes for a while, with no one committing to putting money down.

    Meanwhile, my manager has three appointments today, all three show up, put in applications, and one even put money down. I feel like I literally just lost 1500 bucks.

    This is just one example, there are plenty of times where I've been working a prospect or a specific home for a while, and in one swoop she gets the sale.

    I'm not mad at her, but it's frustrating because that's not her main job, and I was hired on a leasing agent, and my main income is sales, but I only get a bonus if I sell 5 or more in a month.

    Its just a bit of a buzz kill when I see 500 bucks fly right away from me.

    Should I put more pressure on my prospects to move faster before they miss out? Do I just ignore this and focus on the next home? I'm getting frustrated on it since I don't have a pay raise despite my new responsibilities, so I feel like I'm losing money.

    Thanks all, sorry for the rant.

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    Average startup BDR salary (Canada)

    Posted: 28 Apr 2018 12:43 PM PDT

    I received an offer at a SaaS startup for a BDR position: 38k (CAD), 62k OTE

    I know this is below market compared to the bigger companies, but is it too below market? I don't have much B2B sales experience, so I'm leaning towards taking it to gain some.

    They provide good training and the quota's are being hit by most reps.

    This is in Downtown Toronto.

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