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    February 25, 2018

    What I Learned Burning $13,867 on YouTube Ads Entrepreneur

    What I Learned Burning $13,867 on YouTube Ads

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 09:54 AM PST

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    What I Learned Burning $13,867 on YouTube Ads

    YouTube allows you to pay to show an ad before a video plays.

    Since Candy Japan is a service aimed at people with some interest in Japan, and there is an endless supply of videos aimed at the same audience, it seemed that it was worth a shot to try to advertise there. After all even a small chance at finding a new major source of conversions makes it worth a try.

    Here's what I learned along the way from creating the video all the way to tweaking the ad campaign and finally looking at the results.

    Creating an ad for YouTube

    With AdWords you just need three lines of text, but to advertise on YouTube you need a video to show. It doesn't need to be long though. Even 30 seconds will do. But when it comes to creating video, that's actually a pretty long time.

    The major types of videos are screencasts, live action or an animation. Screencasts might work well if you were trying to sell an app or a game, but wasn't really applicable for a candy subscription service. I considered a live video showing the candy boxes being delivered, or an animated explainer video. Since the people viewing my ad had a high likelihood of also liking anime, I figured an ad in a similar style might be a good match.

    Process & cost of creating an animated ad

    I found some examples indicating that an animation would cost about $100 - $150 per second to make. Given that a typical YouTube ad is 30 seconds, you can see this gets expensive fast.

    I found two options: either hire an animation studio, or work with a freelancer. Since I had already worked with an artist to create the manga illustration for the site, I asked him if he might be able to create an animation too.

    Me and my wife came up with a quick storyboard, just using stick figures. I compiled them into a slideshow, wrote the voiceover dialog and mumbled it out while flipping the slides to create the timings.

    Based on our stick figure slides, the artist drew up keyframes. That moved things forward, as we could now discuss particular changes we wanted.

    Based on my mumblings I ordered a voiceover with a professional actress reading out the lines properly. The voiceover cost was about $100, which seemed relatively cheap now, as I was already paying about $3000 for the animation.

    With rough sketches and a voice track timed to them, work could start to turn them into final animation assets.

    The whole process from finding someone able to do this to actually having an uploadable video took 4 months. I imagine that going with a studio might have been a better choice, as the cost would have been similar but the turnaround time would likely have been much faster.

    Here's the end result. If the video tingles your weeaboo senses, that's intentional, as I want clearly uninterested people to skip the video as fast as possible. I'll explain why next.

    You've got to spend money to spend money

    Now after spending a lot of money to create an ad, you can finally get started spending even more money showing the ad to people.

    YouTube itself is used to upload the video. You can make it unlisted if you want. Then to get the ad to appear before videos ("In-stream ad"), you use AdWords to create a campaign. The YouTube video ID is used to link the AdWords ad with the video.

    How YouTube ads are priced

    Just like AdWords, the cost of an ad view is based on an auction between advertisers. However the auction is not based on clicks, but on views. To enter this auction the minimum bid is $0.01 per view, which might sound low, but isn't really.

    Internet advertising is usually priced in terms of 1000 views, called the CPM rate. The low end starts at much less than a dollar, for example advertising on Explain XKCD costs about $0.20 per 1000 views. Mid range would be single digits, say $3 for showing an ad on Cult of Mac. The upper range is low double digits, for instance a banner on bitcoin.com costs $30 per 1000 views.

    Translating the YouTube ads "per view" thinking into CPM: $0.01 per view would be $10 CPM. And this is just the minimum bid that it is possible to pay. Bidding this low probably wouldn't get you many views, and I found myself bidding much higher (equivalent to actual TV ad prices) to get just enough views to determine whether my campaigns were working at all.

    Now the good news: you don't have to pay if someone quickly skips your video! So if you manage to come up with an ad that is completely uninteresting to people outside of your target audience such that they skip it immediately, you don't have to pay for those views.

    I found that 30% of people would actually watch our ad (70% skip). When you take into account that only 30% of people will watch the ad, a more accurate comparison with banner ads would be an interstitial ad with a $3 CPM minimum (1000 impressions * 30% view ad * $0.01).

    Now you might understand why I want to get people not in my target audience to skip – it's cheaper because you don't pay when people skip your ad!

    Targeting options

    Compared to TV advertising, YouTube really shines with all the options you have for showing your ad to only your desired audience. The main targeting options are topics, placements and audiences. Topics and placements control which videos your ad is shown against, while audiences allow you to show ads based on who is viewing the ad.

    Topics

    It would be a huge pain to have to individually select thousands of videos to show your ad against. That's where topics come in, as they are pre-made groups of videos relating to a certain subject.

    For example if you are trying to market a strategy game, you are in luck, because there is a topic just for that.

    Placements

    With placements you can show your ad before a certain video, or before all the videos of your chosen YouTube channels (example screenshot). For instance if you were selling an app for creating bingo cards, you could find all the "how to make bingo cards"-type videos and show your ad before those.

    Sadly in practice I found that it was difficult to get views this way, at least for any price I was willing to test. Even when listing thousands of videos, I wasn't able to get any meaningful amount of views for my ad. It could be that a lot of the videos I tried were either unpopular, had monetization disabled or my bids were just way too low.

    Audiences

    With audience matching Google tries to figure out what type of a person is viewing a video, and if that matches your selection then your ad can be shown.

    There are a lot of options here. You can target investors, cooking enthusiasts, people into DIY, pet lovers, gamers and more (example screenshot).

    Audience matching finally gave me enough clicks to find out whether anyone ever buys anything through YouTube ads.

    Keywords

    In the beginning I said there are topics, placements and audiences, but actually there is another targeting method. One where I still have no idea how it is supposed to work: keywords.

    I assumed to trigger a keyword match, the video title or description would have to match it. This turned out not to be the case.

    For example when I tried the keyword "anime", my ad got shown before these videos: some Lithuanian song, a tutorial on how to make gnomes and some german rap video. Not exactly anime.

    "Keywords can trigger your ad to show when people view related content on YouTube, websites or apps".

    Apparently this "related content" is defined more broadly than I had assumed.

    I know what video you saw last summer

    Oh yeah, I wanted to mention a cool tracking thing YouTube provides. As you might assume, you can easily track when a click on the ad results in a sale. But the cool part is that you can also track when someone views your ad, and then a bit later types in your web address to make the purchase without ever clicking the link.

    In other words you can track both people who click through an ad directly, or who see your ad and then visit your site a bit later (this is known as a "view-through conversion"). It's magic. Magical enough that you'll have to take Google's word on it that these customers actually did view the ad, since you won't be able to detect it yourself.

    Besides purely trusting the reports given to me, I also added a field to my order form where I asked people "where did you hear about Candy Japan?". This confirmed that YouTube really was sending these new customers.

    Tweaking the campaign: exclude!

    AdWords gives you a lot of interesting data about which of your targeting options converted and which did not. Looking carefully at the data AdWords gave me, I did find a few simple ways for lowering the cost of a sale.

    The key realization here is that advertising is as much about showing your ad to people, as it is about NOT showing it to those less likely to buy. An easy start is to just stop all topics or audiences that don't seem to be working.

    If that still doesn't make your campaign profitable, there are broader exclusions and bid adjustments you can make based on age, gender, device, location, parental status and household income. For instance you might find that people in certain locations or age groups are less likely to buy than others.

    With these adjustments I was able to significantly lower the cost per conversion for the campaign.

    In conclusion, did you break even?

    Nope. I lost money.

    Many viewers did place an order after seeing the ad, but not enough to justify continuing the campaign. This was true even taking into account the full lifetime value of a customer. While I was not able to make the campaign break even, by tweaking the targeting options I was able to get pretty close.

    For now I have stopped the campaign and will reflect a bit on what went wrong before possibly trying again.

    As advice for someone else who wants to try advertising on YouTube, I'd say your product or service should make at least tens of dollars in profit to at least have a shot at making the numbers work. Advertising an app with a flat cost of only a few dollars would be unlikely to work even at the lowest bid levels.

    If you do have a suitable product, be prepared to spend thousands while you tweak your campaign towards profitability! Good luck.

    Hope this was helpful. If you are in the mood to try some Japanese candy, do take a look at Candy Japan.

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    Quick question: How do you, as an entrepreneur, prepare a written contract before working with someone?

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 04:07 AM PST

    I'm not currently an active entrepreneur, but I'd like to be someday, and I'd like to lead this thread with a simple question (in the title). I've seen lots of "how to get started" style videos where people give tips on how to start building their businesses and doing work for people, and one of the most frequent pieces of advice I see given is "make sure you get it down in writing".

    What is the quickest and most effective way of doing this, for legal purposes, in 2018? Is it necessary to have a lawyer or 3rd party of some kind for legal reasons to verify it or something, or can this be done via app or something somehow? Is a written signature enough to make sure that it can hold up legally if I need to use it some day? What is the cheap and quick way to do it, the moderate and reasonable way to do it, and the overkill "you're never going to need that much information" way to do it?

    I don't have a good understanding of this part of the process and I don't want to eventually be the guy that got screwed over because he forgot to put some extremely important part of the agreement in writing.

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    Successful entrepreneurs, how was building a profitable business different than you expected?

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 11:46 AM PST

    How have the Facebook algorithm changes affected your ability to drive traffic?

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 08:04 AM PST

    I started a blog a few months ago and was planning to invest more time on it. I thought that I would primarily use Facebook to drive traffic, but not sure if that still makes sense.

    Would like to hear how bloggers are being affected by the Facebook changes and how you guys are adapting to this.

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    Dessert Sushi Business/Bakery Idea

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 09:45 AM PST

    Hi everyone, thanks for stopping by.

    I've recently fell in love with sushi. Its something that I always wanted to try but just not something I thought I would enjoy.

    Anyways, yesterday I went to my first sushi buffet restaurant. It was a conveyer belt style setup where each booth sits alongside a conveyer belt that delivers the sushi right to you and you just open a door and pick up the plates you want. There were over 50 different types and I was amazed by the quality and quantity of the sushi, despite only costing around 10$ a person.

    After eating a ton of your standard sushi rolls, I began to wonder why there was no dessert sushi. As someone new to sushi, I didn't even know if this actually existed or not, but it seemed like it would be a good idea. So, when I got home I got online and began looking up dessert sushi recipes. To my surprise there were thousands of different types and recipes and I spent about 45 minutes on Pinterest alone getting the feel for the ingredients and labor I would need to make my own. I fell in love with how amazing the different types looked and I noticed that they at least seemed quite simple and cheap to make.

    So, I then looked online trying to see if there were any dessert only sushi places. In my mind I was expecting something like a sushi dessert bakery or some type of set up like frozen yogurt places have where you just go up and choose what ingredients you want and you either make it yourself or at some places the staff does it for you (I guess this is more so at ice cream places). As someone who is really into exercise and nutrition, I usually don't get anything when I go to these places with my family but I always love watching and learning the process they use to make everything and put it all together.

    To my surprise, I could not find one sushi dessert style restaurant/bakery. I know that many sushi restaurants have dessert rolls, but I am talking about places thet only serve them. I am 90% sure that these exist somewhere, but I looked through several pages on Google and could not find even one. (Feel free to link me if you do know of one).

    I am posting this to get feedback on why and why not you think this would be something worth really looking into and potentially trying to start up? Honestly, I have always been someone that would never and has never worked in the restaurant industry as I have family that runs restaurants and I am always hearing never-ending horror stories. I do however love to cook and I have been looking for a business to start myself. I feel that this is a scalable idea that could lead to more and more locations if it took off.

    I have done more thinking into this but I don't want to bore you all with an even longer post so feel free to pick this idea apart and ask me questions about it!

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    Diving into this SaaS guide

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 12:41 PM PST

    I started reading Patio11's SaaS guide today.

    This section here, on how the sales model determines everything else, feels crucial:

    There are, broadly speaking, two ways to sell SaaS. The selling model dictates almost everything else about the SaaS company and the product. One of the classic mistakes in SaaS is a mismatch between a product or market and the selected model to sell it on.

    I've experienced this recently with Tiny Wins, but I've seen tons of other founders struggle with this as well.

    Two types of sales models

    • Low-touch SaaS: "generally sold on a month-to-month subscription with price points clustering around $10 for B2C applications in the $20 to $500 range for B2B." Most important metric is MRR. Best example: Basecamp.
    • High-touch SaaS: "On the low-end, SaaS sold to "small and medium sized businesses" (SMBs) on a high-touch model generally has an annual contract value of $6k to $15k, though this can range higher." Most important metric is ARR. Best example: Salesforce.

    I key insight here is Patrick's assertion that "successfully run a low-touch and high-touch business with functionally the same product" are very rare.

    You really need to choose one approach, or the other.

    What are some of your insights from this article?

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    Where do you draw the line between customer service and standing up for yourself?

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 08:50 AM PST

    So I've worked in a couple startups in the retail sector and almost always they get shat on because the customer's expectations were too high. This ends up having bad reviews plastered all over Yelp and Google.

    Similarly, working in an established corporation, it's very hard for a customer to bullshit their way to what they want. Corps are able to enforce policies and very rarely yield to the customer.

    Now, customers are important. They're the reason a business is what they are, and a corporation vs startup are two completely different degrees of companies. How can a startup succeed from the beginning in enforcing policies similar to an established company, without tarnishing the brand?

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    What were some of the first little entrepreneurial operations you started when you were growing up?

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 04:25 AM PST

    For example, when I was 12 I was selling candy in school during lunch. When I was 14 I organized a baseball card traders group with membership fees.

    What were some of your first adolescent entrepreneurial projects?

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    Deciding on a domain tld (.ai vs .cc), would love any feedback/thoughts

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 01:59 PM PST

    Last weekend I built a little blockchain/crypto job board app for fun. When I built it I impulse bought two domains - blockwork.cc and blockwork.ai. I actually like both options, but curious what peoples general thoughts are on which tld they think would have more general appeal?

     
    Neither tld is super common yet, and .ai is definitely a more common option out of these two, but I actually kind of like .cc and think it's not unreasonable to think that that could catch on soon for things related to cryptocurrency (maybe that's already happening?). Do you guys think that .cc is still a little too out there though in terms of general trust/appeal?

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    Starting a business on the side

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 01:56 PM PST

    Hi,

    I have a full time job and I'm thinking of starting a business on the side (to minimise risk in case things go wrong).

    Has anyone here done it?

    Can you please give me some advice on how to have enough energy and time to start a business while working full time?

    (Right now I feel like I need to use my evenings and weekends just to rest / compensate for the time and energy I spend on the job).

    Thanks for your help!

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    Accomplishments and Lesson Learned Friday! - (February 24, 2017)

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 02:07 AM PST

    Please use this thread to share any accomplishment you care to gloat about, and some lessons learned.

    This is a weekly thread to encourage new members to participate, and post their accomplishments, as well as give the veterans an opportunity to inspire the up-and-comers.

    Since this thread can fill up quickly, consider sorting the comments by "new" (instead of "best" or "top") to see the newest posts.

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    Growing a local news website and making it profitable

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 09:08 AM PST

    I'm a 22 y/o recent computer science graduate.

    I started a local new website in September with a business partner with a masters in Journalism. Everything has been going well, we're on track to break 15,000 unique visitors in February which is a 50% increase on January's traffic. We're churning out 55 articles/week and our Facebook page is growing naturally at the rate of around 50 new readers /week.

    Google Adsense is currently churning out about $2/1,000 visitors but we need local advertising if this is going to be a success.

    Our growth goals for 2018 are:

    1) 10,000 FB likes (currently 1.5k)

    2) 50,000 visitors/month (currently 15,000)

    3) €1,000/month in advertising (currently €30/month from Adsense)

    We have some ideas on how to reach these goals but i'd really appreciate any advice it would be greatly appreciated.

    PM for link to site if you're interested!

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    What am I doing wrong with my Instagram account and what can I do to make it work for me AND my clients

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 12:27 PM PST

    I run a lo-fi hip-hop/pixel art instagram page that Ive been trying to develop to promote my music and other independent artists music. Right now, Im keeping it free for others, as I don't have the fanbase or follower turnaround to really get them a significant increase and plays yet. But that is where my problem arises. Ive been hovering around 200 followers and my posts get an ok amount of likes but I dint get enough people clicking my links! For me or the artists I promote. I dont get enough interactive comments either, and I do comment on other related posters, alot. What am I doing wrong? What should I do to be better?

    Heres a link to my page for reference https://www.instagram.com/detunedcartoon/

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    what is the online version of car washing or delivering leaflets?

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 02:01 AM PST

    tl:dr backstory- Im a sub contractor, my wife an accountant on maternity leave for another 6 months. We are building an ecommerce business together on the side and aim to do this full time hopefully within the next couple of years. My wife is due back to work in 6 months but as of next month her pay stops.

    What skill/ service would you recommend she learn that she could do online and earn money (and I am thinking along b2b marketing) that she could supplement our income with.

    I am thinking this with her the potential of doing it long term as well if we decide to keep the online store small and I keep working in my job for a bit longer than 2 years for example. I like my job but the work isn't secure at all.

    I am thinking along the lines of doing google maps, help with reviews, basic website building, SEO, something like that?

    What are your thoughts?

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    Do in your business make sense the 3D printer vs current delivery methods? where?

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 10:58 AM PST

    ????

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    How many hours, on average, do you sleep?

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 10:45 AM PST

    Last thought of the day before I go to bed.

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    Is IBM winning the fight against startups?

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 10:40 AM PST

    This article states that 'major firms' are getting better at finding and nullifying startups. Have any of you encountered an action from a tech corp to prevent your startup from succeeding?

    https://ca.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idCAKCN1G90IB-OCATC

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    Startup opportunity with good potential looking for angel investors

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 10:03 AM PST

    I will try my best to keep this short and sweet. I'm not looking for anyone to critique the brand (seems like a lot of people are good at that) I'm looking to see who might be interested in a business venture.

    I have been working on this brand for a year and a half and I have finally realized that I will not be able to pull this off on my own. The brand has a great potential but the problem is that I am currently not financially capable of taking things where I want to on my own.

    It's a clothing brand (active wear) more specifically. I have sold by ONLY word of mouth for almost $2,000 for a very short period. My website has yet to be active because there's much more work to be done but I'm confident it can be completed. I'm looking for angel investors or perhaps partners but you have to be willing to contribute financially as well.

    Here's what you should know:

    • All designs are made by myself so there's no templates, I don't buy any cheap hanes stuff.. Material is chosen, measurements are custom made I make everything from scratch.

    • I handle everything myself from social media, to marketing, photography (I started hiring people), website was done by myself as well.

    • I started this with my own funds since the risk was minimal and I started small.

    I don't want to say that my brand is "Unique" Why does the product sell? I don't know I'm just going what I love, I love designing, I love the process everything even the struggle. I just know that people love the clothing and the quality I provide.

    Why am I posting this: I feel like there's someone out there who wants to possibly invest into something different or interesting and this may be the chance. There's a lot of potential for this brand I just need the right people with me to take it to the next level.

    For my curious peeps...

    Instagram: lyteathletics Website: lyteathletics.com

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    Simplan - Project Manager

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 05:44 AM PST

    Hi everyone,

    Me and another friend worked since 2011 on several projects and we couldn't ever find a proper project manager, they were either cluttered or ridiculously expensive for a small indie team.

    That's why we joined every feature from the expensive high priced project managers and turned it into a free tool, Simplan.

    It honestly has helped me both professionally and personally in organizing everything and breaking everything in simple tasks. ATM I use it for 2 web-dev projects and another non-tech project. It's free and we are not planning to monetize it, we have no extra costs with it and the savings we've made by using Simplan instead paid tools is enough for us.

    Try it out, see if like it and if can make your life easier, you can use test account to login and see how the tool looks. Any feedback is welcomed since my teams are the only ones using this tool so far.

    Simplan - Your simple Plan

    Simplan - Poorly design FAQ/Usability guide

    Love.

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    Nitro dessert biz

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 09:22 AM PST

    Anybody have any info or insight on the nitrogen dessert business? Specifically the nitrogen dragon breath dessert. Potentially wanted to set one up for the summer. Thanks everyone!

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    Is it really possible to learn and implement funnels

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 09:16 AM PST

    non affiliates only please.

    Is it really possible to learn and implement sales funnels for other businesses as a paid service in a reasonably short amount of time ie 4 to 6 months?

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    Travel Agency specializing in Sports Packages

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 09:04 AM PST

    I love sports, I love travel even more. There are a few companies in my country that offer sports packages, but other than actually searching for them, I havent come across any marketing from these companies, especially in social media, so I had no idea they actually existed nor do I think their range is that dynamic.

    I already have a small digital marketing agency with about 20 or so clients of which 10 are on a SLA but would love to have a business for the greater public as oppose to B2B.

    Anybody have any experience starting a similar travel agency in sports packages? Does one need to be an accredited agency? I would like to cover everything from NFL, Premier League Soccer, F1 Grand Prix you name it. Packages that includes flights, game days, stadium tours, sightseeing etc. And then use my digital marketing experience to market the company.

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    Any advice on approaching a firm to try and start a sales relationship? More details inside.

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 02:24 AM PST

    Without droning on and on, I've identified an extremely niche product which is pretty much monopolised by one company that I can supply far cheaper (around half) than it's current market price at identical or better quality. The only issue is that it's made specifically in accordance with specifications for the individual client, which means I essentially have to cold approach firms that use this product and find out the specifications on what they're currently using, so that I can have it made to those specifications. The logical steps to me are kind of like this:

    1) Find out what specifications they're using and what they pay for each piece. 2) Have samples of the same piece made by my supplier. 3) Give them samples to try. 4) Hopefully receive an order for them.

    I just need some advice on where to start with step 1. My only thoughts are to email or call them up, ask to speak to whoever is in charge of buying their equipment, and ask. But how? Seems a bit strong to be like "hey, tell me what you're using and I can have them made and supply them to you for half that" can anyone give some advice on what that first email/call would look like? This product is generally a pretty large cost for the industry so it's definitely in their best interest. Also sorry for not saying what it is, but I know there are many hungry entrepreneurs here waiting for an opportunity ;) also not at all opposed to marching in their front door if that would be a better approach (I present very well), but obviously that's more intrusive.

    The advantage is that I suppose it's quite an easy sell, because it's not promising something ethereal like "this will increase customer satisfaction" but more "this does exactly what you currently do but at half the cost".

    Thanks guys.

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    Super Newbie in town! :)

    Posted: 25 Feb 2018 07:09 AM PST

    Hi, this is my first rodeo into the business world and would love to get some helpful non cliche advice. :)

    My questions are as follow:

    1. What is the purpose of a business plan? How should someone write a business plan, that has never written one before?
    2. I need startup capital for the business, but I don't want to go loan money. I also do not have any savings to use, neither do I have any family that will assist with the business. Where can I start?
    3. I am 22 Years old and I have a drive to start my own business, but I know very little of starting a business, any tips?
    4. Can I successfully own my own business before the age of 30? ;) I say yes!
    5. Is having a website super important for my new business or can I get away with just having twitter as an example?

    Some notes that you all might find helpful

    I live in South Africa My business would be a local courier *(might branch out to other countries in about 5 years if the business is a success and if I feel inclined to do so

    I already have a name for the business, just need to register the name with the CIPC in South Afria

    I do need a talented logo designer. I do have an logo design in mind, but I cannot draw to save my life :)

    I also still need the get my Driver's License and a vehicle to actually transport parcel ;) After all, how can I deliver parcels without a vehicle

    Thank you all for your time in reading this, would love to get some feedback and clear some things up that you might find unclear in this post. Thank you

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