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    Accounting When I open my wallet, it makes me cry


    When I open my wallet, it makes me cry

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 09:58 AM PDT

    Shout out to the NFP Accountants

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 04:57 PM PDT

    Bonus where

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 06:19 PM PDT

    is this true?

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 06:13 AM PDT

    i had an internship weeks ago, and after 3 weeks, my manager told me he had to let go of me bc "accounting is not for everyone".

    it was my first experience ever and into one week into it, he started yelling at me for being slow. damn it was stressful when we were on Teams after the training he showed me, and i had to share my screen to show him if i understood.

    he was like "you're getting on my nerves" and constantly commented that the way i worked was annoying him.

    although i'm a bit disheartened being told that accounting isn't for me, but i'm glad i'm out of the company.

    i've had breakdowns every day during those weeks, and missing lunch breaks in order to complete my work.

    i'm not looking for advice or anything because i know at the end of the day, it's my fault for not being quick and i'm a slow learner.

    but i'm just wondering if accounting is really not for everyone. what if i just try, will i be able to do it then?

    thanks for your help :)

    EDIT: thank you so much everyone for your replies, and those who offered advices, i'm really grateful. upvoted everyone :) x

    EDIT 2: for those of you asking the name of the firm, i could only say that it's a small company, not too popular to be known by anyone so no worries to run into it! and due to privacy agreement, i can't disclose it and i applied it from my college website :)

    EDIT 3: omg i didn't expect this to get many replies, as well as support! i must say, some of y'all comments made me chuckle! thank you all for encouraging and making my day! 🥺

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    What is deferred tax?

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 09:09 AM PDT

    Just to lighten up your moods.

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 08:34 PM PDT

    f@pgod when the new summer tax interns join:

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 12:59 PM PDT

    Several coworkers have quit…

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 10:33 AM PDT

    Over the past several months, some individuals in my department have left the company.

    Since the new management team has joined, there has been a change in the culture. We are expected to work longer hours, on weekends, and even on Holidays. While people quit for different reasons, I believe a big part is due to this new leadership. These individuals have been with the company for many years, but they all seem to be leaving now.

    I'm worried because this is bad for morale. I'm struggling with this job too due to the hours and lack of communication. It's starting to get to me too, especially recently I feel like there's no support from my management, they just let others treat me with disrespect. I'm not in a public accounting firm so I didn't think the hours/culture would be like this but I guess I didn't know better.

    Not really sure what to do now, I'm feeling unmotivated and underpaid.

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    PhD in Accounting Advice? Worth it?

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 03:26 PM PDT

    I love academia and would love to make a career out of academia. I just finished a Masters and I love my job as an auditor. I'm still working on the CPA exam and my next one will be a CFE. I would eventually like to return to a university setting. Whether working in the internal audit department for a state university or as a professor with a Ph.D. Im currently a 24 year old female. Would it be worth it for spend the ages of 27-32 in a PhD program? Is being a college professor in accounting at a state university a worthwhile career goal (eventually)?

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    Master's degree to complement Accounting

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 01:51 PM PDT

    I will be graduating with a BBA in Accounting next Spring. I am planning to start my Master's degree in the following Spring. I am planning to do CIS, Business Analytics or Finance. Which field do you think will be lucrative to complement with Accounting?

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    Anyone else google various CFO’s total comp for motivation when Big 4 is being a huge downer?

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 06:33 PM PDT

    Just me? Lmao

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    Leaving accounting

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 07:54 AM PDT

    I'll spare you the details. I work for a local CPA firm in tax, I'm 23, without a CPA. I hate my life SO freaking much - though I know I should be grateful to have a job and whatnot. But I'm miserable, and I've just started being honest with myself about it.

    Tax skills don't really translate though, and I haven't been in PA long. I don't think I honestly want the CPA if the work is making me so miserable.

    Question is: where to from here? I don't know how to make that switch but I'd be happy to hear any stories you all have from people that left accounting entirely and still had good careers.

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    For those of you that decided to do accounting for the money, how are you guys doing now? Any regrets? Any victories? Indecisive college student curious.

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 02:18 PM PDT

    What is the best position to switch to in industry from an auditor in PA?

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 07:14 PM PDT

    I'm curious about moving to industry and have 2 years experience as an auditor in public accounting. I do not have a CPA yet but I am in the process.

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    Make the move or wait?

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 08:29 PM PDT

    So I am starting work in the city in public accounting on August 2. Starting virtually and TBD when we will go back in person. Other similar firms are saying September, but that's all speculation at this point. My commute to the office will be an hour and a half and i will absolutely not have time for that given the nature of my job. Should I just make the move now and get a place with august rent or wait until were in person? Part of me is very ready to move out of my parents house and live downtown and get started on life, but there's also a voice in my head telling me it's not the best choice. But I do second guess all of my choices so I really don't know if Im just being hard on myself. What would y'all do in this situation/ is it worth it to move at this point? When are most accounting firms planning on reopening?

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    Financial accounting vs Management accounting

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 07:22 PM PDT

    Which do you think is harder?

    Last semester i aced financial easily, took management this semester, its all good until i reach management accounting income statement, my brain is about to burst open.

    ITS SO DIFFERENT and so complicated

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    Reciprocal Agreement with Lawyer

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 09:05 PM PDT

    Many CPAs I know have informal agreements with lawyers or other professionals to send them business and they reciprocate with tax return clients. Is this common or pretty rare?

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    Certified Fraud Examiner - CFE US

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 08:57 PM PDT

    I just finished the cfe prep course online. I have two questions. 1) How similar/different is the actual exam questions compared to the prep? 2) How long does it actually takes to get the key for the exam?

    For the second question, I know they say 3 to 5 business day. But, I was wondering if they ever get back quicker.

    Thanks!

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    Lawyers win mandatory bar dues battles in Texas, Louisiana - FUCK THE CPA!

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 08:43 PM PDT

    Resume Critique (CAN)

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 01:15 PM PDT

    I'm a student that is about to graduate from university in Canada this coming December. I've interned at a Big 4 accounting firm for the past 2 years but I found that this wasn't the right career path for me after completing a few co-op terms there and have decided to apply for industry positions in accounting and wanted to get ready for recruiting this coming fall. I'm particularly interested in the CPA rotational programs in industry (Manulife, Telus, Banks, etc.) and would appreciate any feedback!

    Resume: https://imgur.com/3Reupno

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    Try industry before coming to big 4

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 02:10 AM PDT

    Edit: I saw some of the comments mentioned below and realised that my message was advocating industry to big 4. What I actually wanted to say was that going from industry to big 4 can be one option as well. Sorry for the confusion caused.

    I went to industry first and after 2 years, I jumped to big 4. Of course I took a paycut but I still jumped because I was becoming pigeonholed, increments were low (starring salary was high), I literally had nothing much to do.

    At first I enjoyed my free time but I soon realised that I was not getting any new skills and jumping to other roles or companies was becoming nearly impossible. So I decided to go to big 4 with a plan to clock in the required number of hours for my professional certification and then bail after that.

    I realised that I did not feel trapped in big 4 as well as realised how to play the game so that I do not get burned out. If I had came in directly after my graduation, I would have definitely quit within a few months.

    The fact is that going to big 4 first may not always be the best choice for everyone. At least in industry, you will see office politics play out even at entry level, learn how the client thinks, understand the processes on the ground,etc. So when you decide to come to big 4, you will be able to understand how processes differ and also have something to compare against. This may even accelerate your learning ability as well.

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    9 months in - Big 4 reflection and thoughts / a story of inspiration

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 08:43 AM PDT

    After receiving my promotion from New Associate to Experienced Associate effective July 1, I figured I would write a post. The purpose of this post is to give an overview of what my experience has been like thus far, and share what I have learned, what I would do different, and what I would do the same. Aside from that, to just maybe give some inspiration to other people struggling out there. Lots of people have told me I have a hard time getting to the point and this is true. Oversharing is symptomatic of one of the ways in which autism manifests. With that said, if this can provide some inspiration to some, then so be it. If you want to skip over it and read about the experience itself, the numbered list is at the bottom.

    For some background, I started at big 4 last year at the age of 25 and live alone. I went to school for 6 years, which included a whole year after first year of university of just staying in my room and sleeping 18 hours a day in an effort to just pass the time and applying to get an "N/A" for all the courses I took in that year. My father's parents were shot to death when he was 7 years old in a time and place without orphanages - he grew up alone. He was very physically and verbally abusive to me and my older brother. We came to Canada from Pakistan when I was 2.5 years old. I first tried to take my own life at the end of grade 4. We were visiting Pakistan for a whole year and I did grade 4 over there while my father stayed behind for work. As nurture hadn't fully taken over, I had many many many friends in Toronto who were and are dear to my heart and always will be. I did not know we would never go back to Toronto at the time so I never collected their contact info. When my father visited at the end of our trip he beat me and my older brother so senselessly within minutes of meeting us in front of our extended family sitting around us that I went to the bathroom and tried to end my life. When we moved back to Canada a week after all that we moved to a different city. I felt like I left a piece of my soul in the bathroom that day in Pakistan. Due to the move to a new city, I lost all my childhood friends and had no way in which to contact them as I knew none of their last names and the memories of their names are hazy. During the rest of elementary in a new city I largely sat alone during recess and balled out as the effects of childhood trauma and abuse were strong as I lacked the necessary social skills. Years of physical abuse dims your personality and makes you way too submissive in social situations to be able to form bonds and be fun to be around. Girls would come up to me and ask me if I was okay and I'd just look at them with sad eyes. I am also autistic. One thing I have learned with mental illness is that it's often only acceptable when you're a child. When you're an adult it becomes "creepy" and a display of "bad vibes" especially depending on the nature of the new symptoms that you may develop. During high school I had a group of people I ate lunch with but wouldn't call them my friends as they never invited me to any "socials" and would plan to sneak out without me if they ever went outside for lunch. I was awkward, timid, and shy but I would just largely mind my own. It wasn't their fault and more so a reflection of my personality due to the abuse at the time. I did have a few people I was close with who genuinely talked to me which I appreciated and returned the courtesy. When I graduated high school I ofc wanted to get the heck out of home and didn't even apply to the university in the same city. During first year I had a good time living in residence with people my age, lots of memories drinking 4 days a week and going to calculus hungover on Fridays with students stumbling all over each and cramped into the 11:30am class sitting all over the carpet and the steps because no one wanted to go to the 10am one with it being the only class of the day. I also experienced a lot of bullying on the floor eventually though and by the end of the year I avoided the whole floor. A girl on the floor with more social power than me had feelings for me when she became single and I would not return her advances and she just laid a fury of an attack against me attacking each and every little thing about me and my character any opportunity she got which just piled on with the rest of the floor going along with it as they would side with the person with more social influence.

    I retook several classes in the summer of first year because I wanted to boost my grades and I did worse/got the same grades. I was hoping to transfer into BBA from Econ. Then second year happened and I just stayed in my room the whole year (non-residence). By the end of 2nd year my roommate who suspected something was going on offered me psychedelics and that along with my summer internship started a slow turn towards improvement in my life where I started exercising consistently and over time improved my grades and personality. In the summer of 2nd year I went to the East Coast of Canada for an internship and met my first girlfriend who was a very hot tall blonde girl and that also helped motivate me to work towards improving my life and turning things around. I wanted to create more memories like that as we couldn't continue our relationship after I moved back largely because she was 4 years older than me creating a maturity gap and because of the distance. I eventually improved my grades more and more, from C's and D's in elementary, to 70s in grade 12, to 50s/60s in university, to eventually taking 3 courses a semester, then 4, then a full 5, to a 79.4 average in my final year of university including the 3rd semester graduate diploma. The next 3 years at university were amazing, aside from one year where I had crazy landlords who agreed to include an estimate for utilities in the monthly bill and then turned off the HVAC at the end of winter for 1-2 months because they were petty. I would warm up in university, quickly walk home and fall asleep with my jacket and gloves on as soon as I got home so I could fall asleep before feeling cold. Showers were next to impossible with 0 heating and I would feel my entire brain throb just trying to wash my hair. During my time at university, one thing that I had to deal with on the daily and could not share because no one would take me seriously was sexual harassment. Everywhere I would go, usually to study, women would take pictures of me without my prior consent. This bothered and angered the heck out of me and yet I couldn't do anything about it. Various times I confronted them and would just get a blank sorry or told they didn't realize it was such a big deal yet obviously it would be to them. They would do it very blatantly and without any shame as if I am not allowed to feel any anger or feel upset from creepy behaviour. Confronting people was very exhausting for me and it wouldn't result in much aside from a blank sorry. The worst would be when my friends would tell me I appeared in this random person's snapchat saying I'm cute or whatever. Anyway consequential to this persistent behaviour I developed a new symptom of autism that I had no idea even existed and it made it extremely difficult for me to as much as leave the house or be around another human being. I had hypersensitive/active vision and if someone was around me I would feel without any control I would accidentally stare at them out of my peripheral vision without any way to stop it. I couldn't do anything about it, people would get very uncomfortable with me. I later realized visual defensiveness/sensory overload/visual information processing/co-ordination of central/peripheral vision is a symptom of autism. Even something as simple as sitting in class was nearly impossible. Even watching the instructor write something on the board my mind would be like "okay do I look directly at the chalk, at the back of his head, at his hand, when do I stop looking etc" and people would be visibly uncomfortable which would make me upset with myself and hold me back in my ability to pursue/enjoy life. I guess a short example would be that even being in a restaurant and looking up to see the menu behind the workers was insanely difficult so I avoided that too and would go to places that had online menus so I could determine what to order before hand. I never had any such problems before but my brain went totally haywire and social interaction became next to impossible including being able to make eye contact without staring during my last year of university. It's like I just forgot everything about it. People ruined my life just for a few seconds of vanity but alas I'm sure they didn't realize this would happen.

    During my last year of university I took every supplement in the book it felt like to try to improve my condition and make my ability to attend class a little easier. I would attend class, just try to write down everything I could, and then go home and try to reteach myself/learn from a few supportive friends because the visual sensory overload was way too much while sitting in class.

    After graduating school I went back home sadly since I did not have any money. A month later I got a job at a big 4 accounting firm but the start date was a whole year later. I did everything I could to make sure to keep my social flaws at bay for the interview. Supplementing sauerkraut, black seed oil, ashwagandha, practicing pranayama breathing, etc etc. The woman who interviewed me I believe felt appreciative of the strides I had taken through my grades, from first year onwards and how they consistently improved. I also spoke very fluently and looked like a total babe which I'm sure also helped. I realized I really needed to get the hell out of "home" but I needed the money to do so. I stayed home for 9 months and then moved out during May 2020 4.5 months before my start date. I saved up the money to move out by finding a factory job in January 2020, and then a hardware store job in March 2020. I would wake up at 4:30, work from 6-2am, work 3-10:30pm, and sleep from 12-4:30 am for 5 days a week for 2 months. My coworkers at the factory were getting concerned because I would set an alarm and fall to a complete deep sleep in my 15-30 minute breaks every day. I did this to save up to buy a car and get the hell out. My dad of course said to not buy a used old car because I was "too incompetent and incapable of being able to find a working car" so naturally that's what I did.

    When I moved out in May I realized I was starting to suffer from a crazy magnitude of ptsd. My parents didn't appreciate that I was autistic and always discriminated against me and mocked me a lot. The parental discrimination hurt a lot more than the physical/other forms of emotional abuse did and it wasn't even close. I was always told how stupid I am, how incapable I am to graduate high school, how if I work extremely hard I might be able to succeed in the trades but no guarantees, how smart my brothers are in contrast to me and how they run laps around me, etc. It was as if in their eyes my only job was to facilitate them like I was a family slave and that was the only level of consideration they had towards me, that's how they always acted anyway. I was the only one who ever did anything for my brothers yet I was constantly labelled as selfish and if I didn't want to do something I would be called inconsiderate. When I moved back home, witnessing this for a whole year and feeling like a foreigner in my own "home" really ate me up inside in a way I cannot describe. The pain was unbearable and goes beyond reasonable explanation. It's not like it stopped when I moved back home, it just continued. My brother totalled the family car and paid a few thousand to help buy a new one (1/6th of the cost) and my parents told me I shouldn't even drive it because "You should feel shame! It is not yours! Your brother has a RIGHT to that car! He bought it!" and would guilt me if I came home from work even a few minutes late and a few times texted me really hateful stuff at times yet would never stand up for me but were always ready to hurt me and discriminate against me to facilitate the unreasonable demands of my siblings. If I steal someone's stuff and then help them buy a replacement does that mean I have ownership of that now? This is just one very tiny example of the type of stuff that happened my whole life because I don't want to go into it more. You can read more about that here.

    Then after having moved out in May, at the end of July I was illegally evicted because my landlord wanted to do renovations. My landlord presumably had a few friends as officers who refused to give badge numbers and evicted all of us without an order from the governing board. I spoke with many officers and they were astonished and said that they wouldn't personally do that and it isn't legal but that they can't do anything in this instance to help out. I plan to take it in court and get my $50g for an illegal eviction as per Ontario legislation. I feel upset at them for what they did. I even messaged the head of the police department on twitter asking him to stop it and he just gave a vague reply. I was homeless for two weeks and contemplated suicide when at night I would stand inside my Uhaul containing my stuff incurring daily charges to get a few pieces of clothes/a brush and toothpaste. I slept in my car usually and a few days in hotels because I couldn't afford a hotel everyday. For those 2 weeks I did not feel any of the effects of PTSD because of the Maslow Hierarchy of Needs as I just wanted a place to sleep and live.

    I started virtually at PwC 1.5 months later. Here are my takeaways:

    1) Most people seem to come from decent families and are the smart kids in school. They are also generally kind people; however, the pressure can push people to act in ways they would not otherwise.

    I have noticed this across several engagements. Most people below partner also seem to live at home if they are single. During my 2nd engagement I felt really sick and my team took over 3-4 of my tasks despite me telling them it's fine. Salute and hats off to them; I hope I can pay it forward. Most people have been very nice and very helpful and I would say I have had a good experience so far. During my last engagement I got news of the murder of the kindest man we had ever met and grew up with, just outside our own "safe" neighborhood. Not everyone cares about the ramblings of an autistic weirdo and bothers genuinely asking people how they are doing. He did and he cared. I cannot even fathom being 10% of that man but I viewed him like a father and grew up playing cricket with him, and he listened to me back in the day like I was his own son or his best friend, with complete empathy and with 0 judgement. Being able to speak to him for even 15 minutes was more effective than years of therapy. He gave me and everyone he spoke to so much faith in humanity. And yet because of bigotry and the vastly incorrect assumptions that the person who did this act must have had about them, they are no longer with us. This goes to show that bigotry and hate gets us nowhere and I want people to realize that and learn from that. Muslim and non-Muslim people alike had nothing but glowing things to say about them. If there isn't something to take away from that then your hearts are plugged and I can't help. Anyway, the way my manager acted throughout this process I did not really appreciate. I don't hold it against him and my point is merely that the pressure of the work can push people in ways they would not have imagined before starting. And that speaks more about the nature of the environment than it does about them. I think that's a positive take on some of the ways in which management/leadership can act but I appreciate how people might not have the most positive outlook on management/leadership.

    2) Hiring more people will not change the workplace culture.

    The culture is designed on overworking people to maximize margins. If there are 100 engagements, a fair allocation is 5 people per engagement, and the firm has 400 people meaning 4 people per engagement, hiring 100 more net people will not fix the problem as the firm will just take on 25 more engagements (125*4 = 500). This is an oversimplification but the model is not designed on people working and being paid for every hour they work.

    3) There is no such thing as a sick day.

    We get 10 sick days per year but there are practically no real sick days in the middle of an engagement. No matter what happens you will always have to finish the tasks assigned to you by the end of the audit. Even if that means working on weekends. This isn't like a classical job like say working in sales or at a factory where if you take a sick day you skip the day without any other impact. Obviously this is largely dependent on your team. My second engagement I had a very considerate team and I'll always respect them for it. The only way you get time off is if you get an entire engagement off such as if you're on vacation/sick leave. With that in mind, this model can both be used for your advantage/disadvantage depending on if you need more/less time than the time allotted to complete all your tasks for the audit.

    5) Use your benefits.

    You get lots of benefits. Make sure to use them in good faith. For us some include: cell phone, discounts, $2500 mental health coverage per year, $500 wellness benefit, paid sick leave etc. I got treatment for PTSD eventually after busy season near the end of April in Chicago which involved 4 injections to my neck known as Stellate Ganglion Blocks (SGB's) and 7 ketamine infusions; I took 2 weeks of sick leave while being fully paid for it. Sure I'm still broke for now but I would not even be able to manage this in many other workplaces.

    6) Don't plan to work 10 hours a day.

    During busy season we are booked for 50 hours a week. However, I noticed a few months ago that when I started the day with the intent to work 10 hours a day, I usually worked 10 or more hours, without being as productive as I could have been. When I intended to work only 7 or 8 hours a day I was much more productive in those 7 hours.

    7) Learn how expectations work and act accordingly. Trust the process

    If you have a suggestion, you might be better off not saying it. Trust me, don't be that one kid who has to sound like a genius during week 1. All this will do is inflate the hell out of your expectations and any amount you fall short of that will reflect negatively on you. However, if your expectations are in line with other new associates, you will have a better time and any amount you go above that will be seriously appreciated. If you want to sound smart, try to save it for the last week of the audit to show that you have grown and progressed over the course of the past few weeks (or however long the engagement is; normally for me it has been 3 weeks and 6 weeks for my largest one). So long as you are in line with other people in your cohort it should work out in the end. Similarly, don't press prepare on too many tasks once completed in week 1. This will make it look like you are very quick/good at your job and will get you more work and raise expectations. Complete the work but pace yourself when it comes to what you mark as prepared/finished. Track your work and progress independently.

    8) Don't obsess over ratings.

    Similar to point 7, trust the process. It's okay to strive for higher ratings but if you don't get it, realize that it's not just about how hard you work but how hard/smart you are perceived to work (see expectations theory above) - I am not saying hard work/competence is not a factor - aside from that realize that the difference in pay is not that big. I got a 3 and I think the people who got 1s got an extra $1k in compensation pre-tax. Apply the marginal tax rate at the income, and you're left with $700. Then account for the fact that a level 1 will work more hours/get tougher engagements and you're not necessarily worse off. I don't mean to chastise level 1s/2s or people who get those ratings. Fair play and there's definitely some benefits; I'm just sharing some perspective.

    9a) Organizational tips/approach to an audit

    Day 1 is the most important part of an audit imo if you want reasonable WLB. here are my personal tips:

    - On day 1, focus on organization. Organize your file folder with all the different divisions of the company and FSLIs. Design your own template that works for you. Copy all the tasks that are assigned to you and update your template.

    - Make sure to do your best to send out ALL the client documentation request on day 1 and document it as you do in your template.

    - Go through every one of your tasks and document your plan/approach for each task in your template.

    9b) Always document your list of questions in a separate document.

    This one is so important I added it as a separate point. The way to document is as follows: Link to task, screenshot if applicable of area of difficulty, and a description of your questions for the task. This might not seem very important as you start off on a team in busy season with lots of continuity with seniors who can help you out. However, during non-busy season you might get put on random small audits that were pushed aside during busy season where ZERO associates have continuity. As a new associate this really sucks when all of a sudden no one but maybe (a huge maybe) the manager/partner can answer your questions who there might be a stigma against messaging if you're below senior (depends on firm size I imagine). It can be overwhelming to be new and have no one who can answer your questions nor understand what was done last year. Especially if it's a weird industry like NPO's that have different accounting principles applicable to them.

    What this approach does, is it will not only CYA, it will also prevent you from feeling overwhelmed thinking I understand none of this. It will track where exactly your queries lie. You should then send this list to your senior and if he/she can't answer your questions, message the manager/partner and be like look I tried, I have questions and I'm not sure where else to go. If your manager doesn't reply and you aren't done the work then at least you have your bases covered. If they bring on someone else to finish up the work, they can at least know what exactly you have o/s and your inquiries.

    10) Take what you hear on this sub including this post with a grain of salt.

    Everyone will have their own biases/personal agendas they might project onto you unknowingly. If you chose this path you did so for a reason and no one can really know what's best for you without having an hour long conversation with you about your goals/where you are in life and knowing all the details. Primarily, I don't think it's reasonable to tell people to definitively quit without knowing more about them/their firm/life. Not saying that this subreddit isn't helpful but that's just something I would keep in the back of your head prior to making any decision.

    Overall, I am really grateful for this job and have felt proud of how far I have come in life even if I still have many areas to work on. The experience has been positive, and the people have been genuinely nice people. Work allowed me to distract myself from my problems and eventually allowed me to get help, after which point I felt a lot of relief and was genuinely working towards happiness. Obviously what transpired has been unsettling to say the least for me and my family over the last few weeks. Life is short and unexpected so make sure to make the most of it, let people you care for know what they mean to you, and never let work get you too down. I hope you can take something away from my experience so far in PA.

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    [CAN] How much did you write for PERT reports (for those in pre-approved public practice route)?

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 09:51 AM PDT

    Like how many words per question

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    I go on PTO for the rest of the week tomorrow for the first time and it feels weird

    Posted: 05 Jul 2021 08:11 PM PDT

    Started big 4 in December and first time going on PTO until next Monday. We got the last few days off, and I traveled…so I guess just catch up on life and relax? I already went to the dentist today. A weird sense of feeling like I'm playing hooky.

    Does anyone just mentally relax on their PTO? I took hopefully my 3/4th CPA exam last week as well so pretty exhausted.

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