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    Daily General Discussion and spitballin thread - June 07, 2021 Investing

    Daily General Discussion and spitballin thread - June 07, 2021 Investing


    Daily General Discussion and spitballin thread - June 07, 2021

    Posted: 07 Jun 2021 02:01 AM PDT

    Have a general question? Want to offer some commentary on markets? Maybe you would just like to throw out a neat fact that doesn't warrant a self post? Feel free to post here!

    This thread is for:

    • General questions
    • Your personal commentary on markets
    • Opinion gathering on a given stock
    • Non advice beginner questions

    Keep in mind that this subreddit, and this thread, is not an appropriate venue for questions that should be directed towards your broker's customer support or google.

    If you would like to ask a question about your personal situation or if you are asking for advice please keep these posts in the daily advice thread as that thread is more well suited for those questions.

    Any posts that should be comments in this thread will likely be removed.

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    Daily Advice Thread - All basic help or advice questions must be posted here.

    Posted: 07 Jun 2021 02:00 AM PDT

    If your question is "I have $10,000, what do I do?" or other "advice for my personal situation" questions, you should include relevant information, such as the following:

    • How old are you? What country do you live in?
    • Are you employed/making income? How much?
    • What are your objectives with this money? (Buy a house? Retirement savings?)
    • What is your time horizon? Do you need this money next month? Next 20yrs?
    • What is your risk tolerance? (Do you mind risking it at blackjack or do you need to know its 100% safe?)
    • What are you current holdings? (Do you already have exposure to specific funds and sectors? Any other assets?)
    • Any big debts (include interest rate) or expenses?
    • And any other relevant financial information will be useful to give you a proper answer.

    Please consider consulting our FAQ first - https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/wiki/faq And our side bar also has useful resources.

    Be aware that these answers are just opinions of Redditors and should be used as a starting point for your research. You should strongly consider seeing a registered financial rep before making any financial decisions!

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    Should Spotify be given a spot in a stock portfolio?

    Posted: 06 Jun 2021 09:31 PM PDT

    I am pretty much torn over SPOT. I have used Spotify, Apple Music, and YouTube Music. I have to say that playlists and recommendations from Spotify are the best. Even though I love using Spotify, I am not sure whether I should put any money into the stock.

    The main issue I have with SPOT is it is the only company in the music streaming game that needs to make money off of music streaming. All the other companies (AAPL, AMZN, GOOG) don't have to make a penny from their music streaming services because all of these companies have way more profitable lines of businesses. Besides, music streaming does not have any economy of scale to speak of. The more users you have, the more music is getting streamed, the more royalties you have to pay out.

    Any thoughts on why SPOT should have a spot in a stock portfolio?

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    How do you go about valuing REITs?

    Posted: 06 Jun 2021 03:42 PM PDT

    So i've been into stocks for about a year but I've got no experience with real estate investment trusts. I assumed their market cap would reflect their assets or equity in some way because I'm under the impression they just own houses so people can 'own' real estate without having to buy a house. But looking at Crown Castle (CCI), their market cap ($90b) far exceeds their assets (>$40b) and even more so their equity (>$10b).

    I'm mainly interested because i'm interested in shorting the real estate market and i'd heard this was the easiest way to do so. Any insight is much appreciated.

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    China's trade boom is still going strong in May, thanks to strong global demand

    Posted: 07 Jun 2021 12:52 AM PDT

    China's exports increased in May, though at a slower rate than in April, owing to strong global demand as more economies across the world opened up. Imports increased dramatically, owing to rising commodity prices.

    The customs office said Monday that exports increased over 28% in dollar terms in May compared to the same month a year ago, slower than expected and slower than April, but still significantly above historical growth rates. Imports increased by 51.1 percent, the highest rate since March 2010, resulting in a $45.5 billion trade surplus for the month.

    Continue to read more China's trade boom is still going strong in May, thanks to strong global demand

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    What’s the reason you invest?

    Posted: 06 Jun 2021 10:03 AM PDT

    Are you a day trader making a living that way investing on the stock market ? Are you a short term investor wanting to make a quick buck and bounce back out, or are you a long term investor holding assets for when you retire you have a good healthy portfolio to use for retirement.

    Is there a certain goal that you have in mind when you make investments ? Such as a yearly total or a overall goal where you'd wanna be?

    I know for me I am wanting to be setting it up for my retirement and to make sure I'm stable when I stop working 50 years down the road. (I'm 22 and yea I'm young but it's never too early to get goin on investing and planning to future.

    Where are you guys at in your investments and do you wish you were at a higher point or do you feel alright with where your investment stands? And what kind of strategy's do you use?

    Is anyone heavy into just investing into crypto and being a trader on that? Lol I'm not sure if that's a thing but I am curious if anyone actually does that

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    Is VIX really useful to predict near term market conditions?

    Posted: 06 Jun 2021 02:21 PM PDT

    VIX Question to Short-Term Trading Experts:

    I am an index investor (VTI) with very limited trading knowledge and am trying to improve my short-term trading performance. I allocate 10% of my portfolio to individual stock to increase my personal rate of return. I set a stop-loss order at or around 10-15%. Other than that, I don't have defined strategies. Although I enjoy trading, my trading account lags VTI by 1.2%. I am trying to improve my performance.

    How are you using VIX to improve your trading performance? Several articles said that the VIX is generally negatively correlated with the broad market indices. Is it a useful contrarian market-timing indicator?

    Thank you.

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    Sale of investment grade euro clear bond in the U.S.

    Posted: 06 Jun 2021 07:40 PM PDT

    Hi guys - hope someone has an idea for me… My wife is the owner of an odd lot (15M) of an investment grade euro clear (not dtc) bond. Bonds have gone from Merril to Raymond James to Fidelity. None of them has come up with any bid for us. Can anyone suggest a way for me to effect a sale. Perhaps a small European brokerage that would let us open an account for a single trade. Thanks in advance.

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    El Salvador looks to become the world’s first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender

    Posted: 05 Jun 2021 02:20 PM PDT

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/05/el-salvador-becomes-the-first-country-to-adopt-bitcoin-as-legal-tender-.html

    El Salvador is looking to introduce legislation that will make it the world's first sovereign nation to adopt bitcoin as legal tender, alongside the U.S. dollar.

    In a video broadcast to Bitcoin 2021, a multiday conference in Miami being billed as the biggest bitcoin event in history, President Nayib Bukele announced El Salvador's partnership with digital wallet company, Strike, to build the country's modern financial infrastructure using bitcoin technology.

    Strike founder and CEO Jack Mallers said this will go down as the "shot heard 'round the world for bitcoin."

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    Who will be the big winner in the continuous glucose monitoring (CGM) market? Dexcom (DXCM) or Abbott Labs (ABT)?

    Posted: 06 Jun 2021 10:11 AM PDT

    Diabetes is still a growing disease worldwide, unfortunately, and the majority of diabetics are still pricking their fingers and using blood glucose monitors (BGM) to check their blood glucose levels every day. With CGM, the need for finger pricking has been eliminated in most cases.

    The two biggest players in the CGM market are DXCM and Freestyle Libre from Abbott Labs (ABT). Freestyle Libre is the cheaper of the two while DXCM sensors have been called the iPhone of CGM. Many people with type 1 diabetes already use DXCM and they swear by it. Now, DXCM is aggressively pushing into the type 2 diabetes market as well.

    What does the future hold for DXCM? Will ABT crush them?

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    Cryto-currency investment

    Posted: 07 Jun 2021 04:49 AM PDT

    Hi,

    I'm a journalist for a media outlet and I'm doing a column on whether average people can make money through cryptocurrency investments. I thought you guys would be the perfect people to ask and it would be awesome to get your thoughts, successes, and difficulties.

    If you have a story or an opinion it would be great to have a chat with you so I can make this the most informed piece possible. I'll DM anyone who is keen and begin sorting out a discussion.

    Thanks in advance!

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    EATZ and BEDZ is anyone interested in re-opening ETFs?

    Posted: 06 Jun 2021 11:16 AM PDT

    Is anyone on this board looking at re-opening plays? I just discovered the above two ETFs (same company manages both). The prospects look interesting, and it seems like a way to get in on reopening in a slightly more diversified way.

    BEDZ: the gambit of AIRBNB to Hilton, spread across US with some exposure to the Chinese market.

    EATZ: all kinds of food and entertainment, Dave and Busters to Strip Clubs, Cheesecake Factory to Denny's.

    The main risk is they rely on consumer discretionary spending, but I do think there is latent demand. That and the correlation between people going to restaurants, the restaurant making money and that actually driving the stock price up. It's not always the case that a profitable company means their stock goes up.

    Anyway - has anyone else taken a look at this or invested? I'm new to ETFs but this seems more interesting than throwing money at SPY.

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    Let's Discuss: the Risk Factor Summation Valuation Method, Pt 1

    Posted: 06 Jun 2021 06:08 AM PDT

    I came across the Risk Factor Summation model recently while looking at VC Valuation methods, but have struggled to pin down a really good explanation of the approach and "Good" and "Bad" examples for each of the included factors. While I hope that my post below is helpful and you maybe learn something, I'd love to get your feedback and ideas of how you think about each factor so we can create a more robust framework with which to use this approach. This post was getting quite long so I'll post it in a few parts over the next few days.

    What is the Risk Factor Summation Method?

    Originally developed by Ohia TechAngels, the RFS is a method used by venture capitalists and angel investors to value pre-revenue companies, typically in the pre-seed or pre-Series A stage of funding. It builds on approaches such as the Venture Capital Valuation method or the Dave Berkus Valuation Method by considering a broader range of risk factors that can affect start-ups as they grow into mature businesses.

    Ohio TechAngels reportedly described the method as follows:

    Reflecting the premise that the higher the number of risk factors, then the higher the overall risk, this method forces investors to think about the various types of risks which a particular venture must manage in order to achieve a lucrative exit. Of course, the largest is always 'management risk' which demands the most consideration and investors feel is the most overarching risk in any venture. While this method certainly considers the level of management risk it also prompts the user to assess other risk types" including: management, stage of the business, legislation/political risk, manufacturing risk, sales and marketing risk, funding/capital raising risk, competition risk, technology risk, litigation risk, international risk, reputation risk, potential lucrative exit.

    "Reportedly described" as this is quoted all over the internet but I cannot find an original source.

    How does the RFS Method Work?

    Step one, an initial pre-money value for the company is determined through looking for 'market comparables', typically competitors in the same or similar industries. This shouldn't take into account specifics of the company per se but look for the average valuation for the industry and at the growth stage the company is operating in.

    Step two, the method considers 12 risk factors, which we will cover in a moment. Each risk is assessed with regards to how it may impact the ability of the company to grow and execute a lucrative exit, and is assigned a score as follows:

    • +2 = Very Positive / Very Low Risk
    • +1 = Positive / Low Risk
    • 0 = Neutral / Medium Risk
    • -1 = Negative / High Risk
    • -2 = Very Negative / Very High Risk

    Step three, The average industry valuation derived in step one is adjusted up or down depending on the score for each risk factor. The adjustment amount can vary depending on what source you ask but typically shifts around $250k for each point move either way (e.g. +2 would add +$500k to the valuation; -1 would subtract $250k).

    Thought 1: is a flat adjustment of $250k per point a suitable number? Should we consider otherwise for certain industries, or adjust this up or down based on the stage of the company (angel, seed, early) or the position of the market cycle?

    So What Are the Factors?

    I'm glad you asked. As mentioned, there are 12 and are presented in roughly the same order wherever you look. Retiba* has offered some great summary sentences to get you started on what each risk means, which are included behind spoiler blocks in case you want to try and guess first - if you get 100% as a newcomer I will be suitably impressed.

    * don't expect to use the tool through that link without first surrendering your email address :-(

    1. Management Risk - Is it possible that the current business management team will impose a high risk on the business in the future?
    2. Stage of the Business - Is the business at the initial stage of the maturity cycle that is inherently risky and likely to fail to a great extent?
    3. Legislation / Political Risk - Can unfavourable regulation, legislation, and political conditions lead to business failure?
    4. Manufacturing Risk, or Service Delivery Risk - Is it possible for the business to have trouble producing and failing altogether due to limited raw materials or an inability for counterparties to make good on agreements?
    5. Sales & Marketing Risk, or "Go to Market" Risk - How much your business may be affected by sales and marketing problems?
    6. Funding / Capital Raising Risk - Given your awareness of the ecosystem, how likely is it that the business will have trouble raising capital in subsequent rounds?
    7. Competition Risk - Given your awareness of the market, how intense do you assess the competitive environment the business will face?
    8. Technology Risk - To what extent can the emergence of new technologies in the future jeopardize the existence of the business?
    9. Litigation Risk - How likely is it that the business under evaluation goes through litigation crises and fails?
    10. International Risk - To what extent can unfavourable international conditions and interactions with other countries put the business at risk?
    11. Reputation Risk - To what extent can the business under evaluation be exposed to the crisis caused by brand reputation?
    12. Potential Lucrative Exit - How likely it is for the potential lucrative of the business under evaluation to be in trouble in the future, and the company will not be able to make a good profit margin for its products and services?

    Several of these factors may be quite familiar (e.g. Management Risk, Stage of the Business), while others (e.g. Litigation Risk, International Risk) may be harder to fathom. Seraf provide a simple example of how positive and negatives for each factor can result in a valuation adjustment. While a helpful indicator, the examples here are limited. I've taken a stab at expanding on each factor and will share these in the next post.

    Edit: As mentioned, feedback welcome, and do let me know if you have read any good sources on this method that I may have overlooked.

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