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    Daily General Discussion and spitballin thread - April 28, 2021 Investing


    Daily General Discussion and spitballin thread - April 28, 2021

    Posted: 28 Apr 2021 02:01 AM PDT

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    Daily Advice Thread - All basic help or advice questions must be posted here.

    Posted: 28 Apr 2021 02:00 AM PDT

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    Microsoft Earnings. Revenue up 19% YoY

    Posted: 27 Apr 2021 01:31 PM PDT

    Microsoft Cloud Fuels Third Quarter Results

    REDMOND, Wash. — April 27, 2021 — Microsoft Corp. today announced the following results for the quarter ended March 31, 2021, as compared to the corresponding period of last fiscal year:

    · Revenue was $41.7 billion and increased 19%

    · Operating income was $17.0 billion and increased 31%

    · Net income was $15.5 billion GAAP and $14.8 billion non-GAAP, and increased 44% and 38%, respectively

    · Diluted earnings per share was $2.03 GAAP and $1.95 non-GAAP, and increased 45% and 39%,respectively

    · GAAP results include a $620 million net income tax benefit explained in the Non-GAAP Definition section below

    "Over a year into the pandemic, digital adoption curves aren't slowing down. They're accelerating, and it's just the beginning," said Satya Nadella, chief executive officer of Microsoft. "We are building the cloud for the next decade, expanding our addressable market and innovating across every layer of the tech stack to help our customers be resilient and transform."

    "The Microsoft Cloud, with its end-to-end solutions, continues to provide compelling value to our customers generating $17.7 billion in commercial cloud revenue, up 33% year over year," said Amy Hood, executive vice president and chief financial officer of Microsoft.

    The following table reconciles our financial results reported in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) to non-GAAP financial results. Additional information regarding our non-GAAP definition is provided below. All growth comparisons relate to the corresponding period in the last fiscal year.

    From https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/earnings/FY-21-Q3/press-release-webcast

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    Recent corporate executive comments on inflation

    Posted: 27 Apr 2021 09:19 PM PDT

    Procter & Gamble

    "The commodity cost challenges we face this year will, obviously, be larger next fiscal year. We will offset a portion of this impact with price increases. Our Baby Care, Feminine Care, and Adult Incontinence businesses have announced price increases in the United States that would go into effect in mid-September. The exact timing and amount of increases vary by brand and sub-brand in the range of mid-to-high single digits."

    Honeywell

    "And for us, inflation is taking hold. There is no doubt about it. We knew it. We see it, it's real. And if you don't stay on top of it, the two areas where -- and this is not a surprise. Steel, semiconductors, copper, ethylene, those are the four elements that we saw substantial inflation in Q1…. I don't think things are going to abate. The short cycle is definitely hard. We all read the same articles around semiconductors and what's going on there. And I think we're going to have to just stay ahead of it. But we do expect that inflationary environment this year and we're going to be to stay ahead of it."

    Kimberly Clark

    "I'd like to start the call today with a few brief remarks. Our first quarter results and outlook have been impacted by supply chain disruption, faster-than-expected consumer tissue de-stocking, and a sharp rise in input costs. While I'm not pleased with the results and our outlook, we're taking decisive actions to manage through the short-term challenges we face."

    Coca-Cola

    "… we're closely monitoring upward pressure in some inputs, such as high fructose corn syrup, PET, metals and other packaging materials as they impact us, as well as our bottling partners."

    PepsiCo

    "In terms of '21, there is certainly higher input inflation, but it's been factored into the '21 guidance, notably in terms of agricultural and packaging. In addition to that, we have also factored in the higher freight and transportation costs that we're experiencing out there right now."

    Nestle

    "I would like to caution against excessive margin growth expectations based on these strong sales growth. We now see broad-based inflation across our various commodities, packaging materials and transportation costs. Not all of these items can be hedged and our hedging cover for a number of commodities will run out over time. We are raising prices where appropriate, but usually there is a time lag associated with pricing."

    Danone

    "When it comes to inflation, you're absolutely right to say that we have seen an accelerating inflation since the start of the year, which is impacting us, I would say, across the different ingredients, which is on milk, but also other dairy ingredients, on plastics, on sugar, but also, as I said, on logistics and transport. And we are reaching now a very strong mid-single digit level when it comes to inflation."

    Boston Beer

    "On the freight, clearly, this is -- there's a factor that you probably have heard that on other calls in the industry. There's a real shortage of drivers and of trucks. So the ratio between available trucks and loads have significantly worsened. And that's what we see in the rate. To the point that we've broken it out really in the earnings release separately because the impact is significant. And it really depends, right. We have contracted rates, but then you don't get the truck and you have to go deeper into it. So we've seen the impact on multiple levels. One is the input costs are going up …it's coming into are our cost and materials and that's ingredients, the packaging materials. So we see it there."

    Celanese

    "I mean, we're certainly feeling the inflationary factor. I think, the good news is, we anticipated this coming back in fourth quarter of last year already and started moving prices in engineered materials to reflect this, and of course, that price ultimately still gets reflected more quickly. So although it is an inflationary pressure, we've been able to push that through in our pricing and basically maintain the same level of variable margin."

    Crown Holdings

    "…we thought it would be well to remind you that delivered aluminum in North America sits around $1.28 a pound versus $0.75 a pound last year at this time. So an increase of 70% and as we contractually pass through the LME and the delivery premium reported revenues will reflect both volume increases and the higher aluminum cost this year."

    Steel Dynamics

    "Despite record first quarter 2021 shipments for our steel fabrication segment, first quarter operating income was $10 million compared to sequential fourth quarter earnings of $25 million. Lower earnings were the result of metal spread compression as higher average selling values were offset by significantly higher steel input costs."

    Mattel

    "We're not going to talk about specific pricing actions or timing. But we are evaluating price adjustments for the recent increases in input costs and I would also want to point out that despite the cost inflation we're it seeing and the impact it's having on gross margin."

    Whirlpool

    "So while the macroeconomic environment remains uncertain, we are confident that sustained strong consumer demand and our previously announced cost-based pricing actions will offset the impact of global supply constraints and rising input costs."

    Snap-On

    "Look -- yes, well, look, we've got material inflation in these numbers. We can't see them, can you? Right. And so part of the thing is you got -- you kind of got an interesting cocktail of reduced travel, controlled costs, material inflation floating through this. And the general managers in our businesses are balancing all these, like balls in the air. And so yes, we might see some, but we're not -- at the same time, we can also price. And I think the tools group has got another price increase going out. They just announced in April, early April, they announced the price increase, so they're going to have one coming up."

    GATX Corporation

    "…we buy cars both on the spot market and through our supply agreements that the majority of which is through the supply agreements. So certainly, the increased price of steel is increasing the cost of a car across the board."

    Dover Corporation

    "I get it that the Fed doesn't want to recognize inflation, but there is inflation and it's not just a raw materials because raw materials are in the subcomponents that we buy from our vendors who are trying to pass along the same kind of price increases that goes into our bill of materials and everything else. And clearly at the assembly level on labor availability is becoming a problem and that is beginning to start to move up labor costs over time. So, it's now gone from, it's a capital good size that are buying a lot of raw materials now it's moving into the assembled components portions of the business that is going to have to accommodate that over the balance of the year. On top of that, as I mentioned before, logistics costs we ship a lot of product that's FOB, so we're not, it's more inbound logistics costs then it is outbound logistics costs. But freight costs are going up because you're going to add. I mean, God forbid, you have to air freight anything right now. It's a bit of a negative.

    Sonoco

    "Our Industrial segment was hit the hardest with price/cost challenges, due to the higher OCC costs internationally as well as higher-than-expected inflation and operating costs like energy and freight."

    TE Connectivity

    "Certainly, we're feeling the biggest inflation right now is on the freight side. The freight inflation has been significant and as we battle through there and there's a variety of reasons for that, including higher air freights and so forth in terms of that and that's not unique to TE. Certainly, I think that's been -- is well publicized across the overall supply chain. We are -- as we move towards the second half of the year, we are seeing a little bit higher input costs, particularly with the resins and some of that pretty directly attributable to the weather issues that were in Texas here earlier this past quarter. And then, the copper prices as we've continued to monitor those, we've seen those creep up. In some cases, we have hedges in place in terms of how we hedge our metals cost."

    Badger Meter

    "I mean even Just in the first quarter, we saw the input cost go from $3.60 to today $4.20 and that's after March having been a relatively favorable change that obviously has been erased here in the month of April. So I think it's what we've been saying all along in terms of the continued price focus and the opportunity and the market acceptance of being able to pass some of those increases through in today's dynamics and in today's environment. We're going to continue to do that, and we're going to do that to a degree that we're able to -- we believe we'll be able to offset the majority of the cost pressures. And I don't see that changing dramatically as we move forward."

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    Disney to Close All Stores in Canada Amid Retail Strategy Shift: Sources

    Posted: 27 Apr 2021 08:09 PM PDT

    Article:

    https://retail-insider.com/retail-insider/2021/04/disney-to-close-all-stores-in-canada-amid-retail-strategy-shift-sources/

    Note this isn't confirmed yet, but retail insider is reputable and almost always correct.

    If true, this is a stupid move for Disney imo. There's no way in Canada to realistically order from their online store -- it requires payment in USD and there's a massive customs markup fee.

    Their mall locations in and around Toronto have always been extremely popular and busy, often with lineups.

    Not sure what management is thinking here. Closing some would make sense, but all doesn't.

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    What do you think broad market returns will average over the next 20 years?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2021 05:24 AM PDT

    When retirement planning or just choosing between different investment opportunities we all have to make some assumptions about what the long-term broad market outlook is. With a difference of 2% growth rates over the next 20 years there can be massive differences in the end value of your investment.

    The historical CAGR (with dividends) of the S&P500 over the last X years (ending Dec 31 2020) is as follows:

    100 Years: 10.46%

    90: 9.92%

    80: 11.23%

    70: 11.54%

    60: 10.27%

    50: 10.76%

    40: 12.01%

    30: 10.24%

    20: 6.59%

    10: 13.99%

    Source: http://www.moneychimp.com/features/market_cagr.htm

    Knowing this, what do you assume the broad market will have for an annualized growth rate over the next 20 years or so? I'm thinking along the lines of the total S&P500 return, VTSAX, or similar. Why?

    I realize nobody can truly know what to expect, but I'm asking what assumption you would make based on historical norms, future outlook, macroeconomic factors, etc.

    Personally, I assume a conservative rate of return of 7%. I do this for several reasons. First, I would rather underestimate how much I will have in 20 years and be pleasantly surprised when the return is more. Second, I think macroeconomic headwinds are coming compared to the previous decades that will result in slower overall growth.

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    Trying to get future valuation based on future estimated Revenues for fuboTV...comments appreciated

    Posted: 27 Apr 2021 01:00 PM PDT

    I'm looking to get a valuation on FUBOTV based on my estimate Subs growth out to 2025. This is how I have approached it. Can I get some comments on this please as to is it a valid approach or not? Suggestions of alternates...

    P/S(TTM) = 4 Stock Price is $22Current subs as of Dec 2020 - 545K - 41% growth

    Streaming Subscriptions

    Assume growth is at the same level for next 5 years:

    Sub Dec 2021 - 770K -> Sub Dec 2022 - 1.085M -> Sub Dec 2023 - 1530M-> Sub Dec 2024 - 2.16M-> Sub Dec 2025 - 3.043M

    Assume we only get revenue at the base subscription level to be conservative:

    $65 x 3M x 12 = $2.4B

    Online Sportsbook & Fantasy Sports

    Draftkings reported $65 per unique monthly user in Q4 2020. They have 1.5 million of these. I am giving FUBO 1/3 of this per active users to be prudent as we just don't know yet what sort of money FUBO will bring in for Fantasy Sports and Sports Betting.

    By 2025 with 3 Million users getting an estimated $22 on average per user per month

    3m users x $22 x 12 months = $792M per annum

    Ad Revenue

    We assume FUBO can work the Ad Revenue to at least Hulu's level of 34%(Youtube is at 47%) of subscriber revenue by 2025

    Subscriber Revenue in 2025 estimates as above at $2.4B * 34% = $816M

    Total Revenue by 2025

    $2.4B + $0.792B + $0.816B = $4.008B

    P/S(TTM) = 4 Assume it will double given growth(which is a conservative measure) to 8

    Sales = $4B

    Shares Outstanding = 140.16 million

    P/4B=8

    P=32B/140.16M

    FUBO Price as of 2025 based on assumptions above = $228.31

    Is this realistic to attempt a valuation going backwards on Price/Sale ratio?

    Thanks, No-Ball7005

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