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    Accounting Tips for new managers

    Accounting Tips for new managers


    Tips for new managers

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 12:34 PM PST

    Yesterday I posted asking what I can do to make seniors/junior's lives easier as manager. Ironically I ended up with a private message from a senior who is up for manager promotion asking for advice.

    Copy paste dump below of message - perhaps it'll improve someone's audit life somewhere in the world a tiny bit.

    Forgive the rambling writing style & keep in mind this isn't authoritative - it's just my take on it.

    EDIT - thanks for the gold kind stranger

    what qualities served you well

    I'd suggest thinking of it in terms of behaviours. Here's a random list:

    • Take time to coach, especially the juniors. They appreciate a manager taking time to do so and will repay that with loyalty. Also, coaching is a bit of an art so I find the seniors don't always cover everything well - especially the big picture stuff.

    • Never get angry with subordinates even if they seriously fuck up - it doesn't improve the situation.

    • If someone fucks something up, take the time to explain why it's wrong - in a dry technical way not criticising. "If we test it like this it would mean that assertion XYZ isn't covered, so it's better to do it like so".

    • Always have time for your people. i.e. If I'm busy with something important and a junior approaches me with a beginner question I'll drop everything, smile and focus on coaching her through the question. Even if it's a stupid question from their perspective that question is super important right now. I've actually had this come back as an upward anonymous feedback comment as "Anomaly always has time for me".

    • I try to lead from the front. So if my team works long hours then I do too. That's assuming the budget can take it, which is not a given.

    • Aim for a stoic presence. i.e. When the audit is going up in flames your team looks towards you as a source of stability & guidance. So you need to appear in control even if you're panicking inside. Similarly even if you don't have all the answers you need to project confidence on the way forward. Team confidence is fragile & you need to be a net provider of it, not a taker.

    • I set aside personal money to spend on my teams. 250 quid or whatever is a tiny portion of my salary but provides disproportionate strategic career benefit. I spend most of it on coffee runs - so I grab a different senior/junior each time and walk (10 mins) to a coffee place. The walk is one big coaching session ("Are you coping with everything? Are you getting enough time to study? etc") and the 250 quid allows me to pick up 100ish coffees. People notice that generosity. Halo effect.

    • I try not to inconvenience them with stupid things - e.g. If I can fix minor problems during review then I'll do that instead of sending work back.

    • CC in juniors on mails to seniors. It'll probably go above their heads but if they pick up a bit of "this is how we do it" knowledge that's good. Same for client meetings - I bring a junior along ostensibly for minute taking but it's really to give them exposure & face time with senior client people.

    • Recognise cases where a bit of manager magic can save a senior/junior a lot of hassle. e.g. Instead of them digging down some testing rabbit hole manager makes an executive decision that no further testing is necessary. Or manager picks up the phone calls the client and asks them to expedite/fix/sort out whatever the problem is. Same for contentious internal debates - if there are differing views within the team sometimes a manager decree amounting to "Anomaly looked at it & said we're doing X" stops the drama dead in it's tracks.

    • A good analogy is those oversized transports like this: https://i.imgur.com/u5zq3YB.jpg The manager doesn't actually do any of the moving but he/she is the scout car that needs to figure out whether that bridge ahead is a problem & works on dismantling stop signs so that the team can make that dicey turn. So problem-solving to keep the squad moving.

    • Keep an eye on the budget. That's the one area where the top management will come down hard on you if it goes wrong.

    • Give people areas of responsibility that they can call their own. Something they can point to at performance review time and say "I did that and it was a success".

    • If possible present a training session to juniors. It's a good learning experience for you. Same for secondments.

    • Always coach/explain with a pen and paper via diagrams. That way both the auditory learner and visual ones can follow since you probably don't know what they are. So if I've got 4 sets of numbers/reports I'll draw blocks and lines while explaining what I want tested against what.

    • Be seen in the trenches occasionally. e.g. Yesterday I was doing work that is appropriate for a 1st year junior. Not budget efficient but nobody was free and I needed it done asap.

    • When leaving in the evening stop by the desk of each team member, ask them if they have questions before you go & remind them not to stay too late. Sometimes if you've got a good team + good manager combo the team is a little too enthusiastic with the long hours so it's up to you to keep that in check.

    • If it suits your personality try to coach & guide others. i.e. Career advice etc. Lots of people are lost in the corporate jungle and can use guidance from someone experienced. Do this well and they'll repay you with unwavering loyalty.

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    Public accounting to curling - good career move?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 08:44 AM PST

    With the recent success of the US men's curling team in the Winter Olympics I believe now is the right time in my career to make the switch. I make about $68k right now and read curlers make over $100k a year. Has anyone done this before? Any advice on making the switch? What are the benefits like?

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    Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud.

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 09:40 AM PST

    How I feel sitting in the office this Saturday

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 01:04 PM PST

    It’s 8pm on a Saturday

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 05:04 PM PST

    Is anyone else still at the office?

    Does my company pay for an additional meal if you work all day?

    Is this even real?

    So many questions to be answered, so little time.

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    Mfw going through the “Financial Instruments” lecture in Becker FAR

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 06:32 PM PST

    How's everyone holding up?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 11:23 AM PST

    As the title says, how's everyone doing? We're a little less than halfway through the storm, so keep your chin up, and you'll make it through alive!

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    What do you do when you can't get the cash flow statement to work?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 02:43 PM PST

    I love the dank memes like the rest of you, but I have a real question for a change.

    I work at a small firm where you do some of everything. My audit experience is pretty slim, and I've been given a governmental audit. I was able to do the audit by just doing what was done last year (because that's what I was told to do instead of actually being shown how to do this audit). I'm doing the financials now and the cash flow statement is off by $129 and I just can't figure out where it is. Clearly this isn't material, but I want to make sure it's right.

    What would you do?

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    Sitting for FAR today. The kicker is that I haven't studied since I got a 74 last summer.

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 08:48 AM PST

    I was going to lose the Q1 window anyway. Let's do this.

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    The only reason I picked accounting was the fact that I hate working and wanted to retire early as soon as possible. Now I am dreading that the only way to early retirement is in a body bag with this horrible cult-like profession. What the hell guys? What is going on anymore?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 07:12 PM PST

    I am going back to experimenting with hypnosis + LSD to really fuck over my conscious mind because this tedious bullshit is so annoying.

    My reality is about to get jack-hammered to all hell.

    I was constantly suicidal BEFORE accounting but this is making death feel like a paradise. No thoughts? No emotions? No existences? NO spread shits? No bastards and bosses?

    SIGN ME UP, YO.

    Clears throat

    How is your Saturday going?

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    Please help me understand. (New accounting student)

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 08:52 PM PST

    Hello,

    I am a new student in the accounting world. I am taking my first accounting class ever and I have done fairly well understanding the material, until now.

    I cannot, for the life of me, get my brain to understand corporate bonds. Specifically the pros and cons of purchasing at a premium. One of my assignments is to write a memo to a customer telling them that their desire to purchase bonds at a premium is a good/bad idea.

    Our class text isn't very clear and google has only confused me more, so I turn to the ever trusty redditors. Can someone break this down for me. Seriously, explain it like I'm stupid, because I feel massively stupid when it comes to bonds.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Leave $60k job with large company for promotion to $70k job with small IT company

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 06:47 AM PST

    I'm a CMA, CPA (Canada) that currently makes $60k/year in an intermediate role in industry for a big company that has over 5000 headcount, $3 billion in revenue. Been there for 2.5 years in the same level role, switched to a different area of the business a few months ago. Low COL area in Canada too.

    Job is a Senior Accountant/Assistant Controller position at an IT company that is well backed $350 mil capital. Headcount is around 40-50 people, $10 million revenue/year, looking to grow to over $50 million in 5 years. Salary is $70k/year + bonus. I'd be doing coordination and execution of close process, prepare monthly statements and quarertly board report packages, support IFRS audit, manage risk/enhance accuracy of reporting procedures, participate in projects like new ERP implementation, and budgeting. I've weighed the pros and cons, and come up with the following:

    Pros:

    • Upward title change from my current position

    • Higher pay

    • Heard good things about the company from other contacts.

    • Gain loads of skills in different areas (M&A, FP&A, budgeting, analytical work)

    • Opportunity to grow the position as company grows and possibly gain management skills given the projected growth of company

    Cons:

    • Not sure on supports available -- CFO seems to be always busy, and had an interview pushed back an hour with them at the last minute -- seemed off putting and unprofessional

    • Feel like I'm taking a massive risk in the jump going from large company to small-ish IT company -> how this will be seen on my resume? Exit Ops?

    • Likely be working more hours (40 to about 50-55).

    Thoughts?

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    “Spreadsheets never disappoint”. - Warren Buffet

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 06:17 AM PST

    From the 2017 annual report regarding the forecasting of synergies. WB knows how we roll.

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    Dear r/Accounting - Best Advice You Could Give To A Guy Starting Over?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 05:20 PM PST

    Hello everyone,

    This is going to be incredibly hard to write for me, but I'll try to put it in the least amount of words possible.

    I firstly want to admit it was entirely my own fault I am in this position. I can't blame anyone, but the circumstances didn't help much.

    I suffered from social anxiety issues, severe depression, and background that left me guideless in this type of world. All this was compounded by my obsession with making something of myself because I am the only child out of three that does not have a severe mental disability. My parents are old, my professors retired, and I've found companies to be cruel. I need help, I want to work and find a good job.

    I graduated May of 2017 with a degree in Business Admin with concentrations in Accounting & Finance. My grades were decent, I was involved on campus and off, I spent my time abroad wisely, and I worked my butt off.

    However, despite the fair amount of interviews I had gotten I ended up with no leads to a full-time job. I interviewed okay with the very few firms that gave me feedback, I was always close to getting the job from those that told me.

    I've found difficulty in the past few months. When I did get job interviews I often felt the people were cold and I wondered what type of candidate did they want? I would often have to write large firms to get a denial letter which I found humiliating and honestly puts me off from working in larger firms. Most of the interviews happened last year. I often send out twenty plus resumes not to get a reply but the larger firms seem to respond (I live in central NJ)

    I feel my biggest mistake was taking the summer off from job hunting in order to figure out what i wanted to do and get my head straight.

    I got sick for an entire month between December and January, missing many tax season cutoffs. I caught the flu and was bedridden for three weeks, contracting other sicknesses that compounded.

    When it came to building my business connections I had an easy time making them, harder to maintain. I have a stack of business cards with directors from Chase, departments of UN, US Gov, Vice Presidents of J&J, and yet I find difficulty asking for help. I do not know how to network the way people that grew up with white collar parents do. Should I reach out? Even if it's been a year... I don't know.

    My final issue is I do not have enough money for the CPA and study materials. They cost several thousand dollars which I don't have... (Student loans, car issues, medical, etc) I am about to finish my 150 credit requirement by May.

    What experiences can any of you share with me to reach my goal of being employed at a decent position? There are so many jobs but only a few won't be dead ends.

    Please r/accounting can you help a guy like me?

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    What are some things that employers expect of you as a staff accountant?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 07:43 AM PST

    Currently I am a student, no degrees, no CPA, limited experience. I have some general experience with a year of accounting courses and I manage a small flooring business in San Diego. I am looking for greener pastures. What are some things that are music to an employers ears when they are interviewing you? I am so new to the field, so I would definitely appreciate some input from you guys, as you have way more experience in the field.

    tldr; Is it financial statements? Software? Tax? What in general do employers really want from their accountant?

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    Is 1 year+ an okay amount of experience?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 08:10 PM PST

    I'm currently working in B4 Tax and it's crushing me every single day... It pays very well, prestigious, and my entire family loves it that I work there. But I can't handle another peak season now that I've experienced my first and it's not even the peak of it yet (April). I'm planning to resign this December and I'll have 1y 4m of work experience by then, but I'm worried anything under 2 years would come off as a red flag to potential employers.

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    Industry to Industry Switch? Done it? Liked it?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 12:29 PM PST

    As the title reads.... Have you switched from Industry to industry? What was the switch like in salary, responsibilities, titles?

    Have a college buddy that went from public > controller in industry > controller of larger industry company...

    He's stayed at the last spot for awhile now and I'm wondering if he's capped out. He's a few years older than me and seems happy, but he still has 30+ years of work left. I guess some options for him would be Director of Finance/VP of Finance, Director of Accounting, CFO, etc..... However, I don't know who these roles are typically filled by. Do these director/CFO roles get filled by outside industry professionals.. Or do they normally get plucked from higher level public accounting professionals?

    I'm personally in public, so my pathway is kind of designated already, or at least a little more structured and somewhat guaranteed. I hear all the time about how industry is a LOT slower with raises, promotions, etc... Is that still the case when you're higher up like he is?

    I don't think his current company has much room left above him, so any advancement for him would probably be switching employers. He is a CPA.

    Anyone had a similar experience? Have more insight?

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    Nobody has been able to tell me exactly what a subledger is.

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 03:43 PM PST

    Hello auditors - can you tell me what you consider a "SUBLEDGER" is in public accounting?

    Think specifically in a context of a large conglomerate. Could it just be an excel sheet? Would it be an SAP trial balance pull? What is it. I was a finance major.

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    How to catch up in understanding accounting?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 02:56 PM PST

    So I've posted about this before but did not get many responses so I am asking again.

    I am majoring in accounting and am currently a senior. I had my first accounting class two semesters ago and did not do well in it (I scored an A, but a lot of that was just submitting homework assignments due to help from Chegg). I was using Chegg more as "monkey see monkey do" rather than actually learning, and now, I have extremely limited conceptual understanding of accounting. Stupid, I know. But, I was going through a lot with depression, family issues, and mental health.

    I'm currently still going through some of those things, but thankfully, things are better. However, I am now in Managerial accounting and we are now on two chapters passed exam 1. The sad thing is, although I fell behind in my first accounting class, I began doing the same for this class. I was searching answers, etc. Just a few days ago, I snapped out of it, asking myself what the heck I was doing, and now I have woken up but need to know how to fix this issue I got myself into. I need to learn the material that I didn't grasp understanding of previously and keep up with the material that I currently have.

    However, I don't know the best way to go about doing this because a lot of concepts I'm currently dealing with do require some understanding of previous chapters/content.

    Facts: I do own Schaum's Outlines which does cover principles of accounting concepts from my first accounting class.

    That's about all. I am looking for advice as to what to do because at the end of the day, I want to be a competent accountant, not just somebody with a degree and no knowledge.

    Please help!

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    What is Intermediate Accounting 1 like?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 06:39 PM PST

    So i am going to take it next semester and I really have no idea what to expect. All i really know is that it builds off the basics of financial accounting. What should i expect before i head into the class?

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    Hardest accounting class

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 06:21 PM PST

    I'm only 2 classes into my accounting major and wondering which accounting class I will probably be crying my way through? Which was the hardest for you?

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    Should my parents claim me as a dependent?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 01:59 PM PST

    Financially speaking, would it be more beneficial for my parents to claim me as a dependent or not?

    Some quick info on my situation for 2017:

    • I was 23 years old and lived at home with my parents.
    • I worked a full-time job. (Salary ~$90k before taxes)
    • My parents did not charge me rent.
    • Mother doesn't work, father makes ~$120k before taxes.
    • What would save my family the most money?
    • We live in California
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    Potential new role - Budgeting and forecasting process?

    Posted: 24 Feb 2018 04:48 PM PST

    So I'm currently working as an Accountant (things like consolidation, elim entries, intercompany type of work, etc.) and have an interview for an Analyst role more on the FP&A side. The potential new role has tasks like developing and maintaining budgeting/forecasting models, CBA for new business proposals, variance analysis, KPI reporting and analysis, etc. with a little bit of accounting work as well (e.g. accruals).

    I want to be as prepared/knowledgeable as possible, but I've never really done budgeting and forecasting directly before. I work with our FP&A group and know they meet with the business to get the details, and use Hyperion Planning for the software side. They do reforecasts regularly (like a 2 + 10, 5 + 7, etc). But that's really the extent of my knowledge of their process (I plan to ask/shadow their process so I can become more knowledgeable about it).

    Anyways, would anyone be able give an idea of what the actual process is for budgeting and forecasting - how do you actually do it? I know it will vary a lot from company to company, but just to get an idea from someone's practical experience would be great.

    Thanks!

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